Halberds ca. 1500-1580

Matchlock · 5th October 2010, 04:36 PM

Thank you so much, 'Nando,

For adding the original German term Zwinge - obviously your German is better than mine, and so is your Bavarian dialect!

Best,
Michl

Dmitry · 5th October 2010, 06:33 PM

Length with langets 125cm.
Length w/out langets 80 cm.
From looking at my books and auction catalogs - South German or Austrian, ca.1600.

fernando · 5th October 2010, 06:47 PM

No maker's mark?

Matchlock · 5th October 2010, 07:15 PM

Dating correct but no marks at all.

These are simple ornaments only, based on Late Gothic and Early Renaissance trefoil and quadrifoil decorative elements, and heavily stylized by 1600.

The haft should be of ash or oak.

Best,
Michael

Dmitry · 5th October 2010, 07:32 PM

Right, no markings.
How long of a haft would be average for these? I've seen up to 2.5 meters, perhaps more.

Matchlock · 5th October 2010, 08:31 PM

Relatively exactly 280-290 cm for 1600, with laterally incised lines along the four edges.

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Matchlock · 13th October 2010, 02:18 PM

From a German painting Christ's Way of the Cross, 1440-1445, Hessisches Landesmuseum Darmstadt.

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Dmitry · 13th October 2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

Relatively exactly 280-290 cm for 1600, with laterally incised lines along the four edges.

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M., would it be troubling to ask for an up-close photo of the decorations that you wrote about?
Also, the length of 280-290 cm., would that be just the haft, before the actual head?
I'm gearing up to start making a new haft for mine, and want to be as close to the historical side of it as possible.
Thanks!

5th October 2010, 06:33 PM	#2
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Length with langets 125cm. Length w/out langets 80 cm. From looking at my books and auction catalogs - South German or Austrian, ca.1600. Attached Images

13th October 2010, 02:18 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	1440's German Polearms From a German painting Christ's Way of the Cross, 1440-1445, Hessisches Landesmuseum Darmstadt. m Attached Images

5th October 2010, 04:36 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thank you so much, 'Nando, For adding the original German term Zwinge - obviously your German is better than mine, and so is your Bavarian dialect! Best, Michl

5th October 2010, 06:47 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	No maker's mark?

5th October 2010, 07:15 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Dating correct but no marks at all. These are simple ornaments only, based on Late Gothic and Early Renaissance trefoil and quadrifoil decorative elements, and heavily stylized by 1600. The haft should be of ash or oak. Best, Michael

5th October 2010, 07:32 PM	#5
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Right, no markings. How long of a haft would be average for these? I've seen up to 2.5 meters, perhaps more.

5th October 2010, 08:31 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Relatively exactly 280-290 cm for 1600, with laterally incised lines along the four edges. m