Philippine weapons in Spanish museums

Battara · 27th September 2010, 04:57 PM

Once again some great pictures. Thank you for all your efforts and hard work. Love the Bagobo shield.

VANDOO · 27th September 2010, 05:57 PM

GREAT PICTURES WITH AN INTERESTING SELECTION OF WAR CLUBS. IT LOOKS TO BE 5 CLUBS FIJI/TONGAN, 2 SAMOA, 1 SOLOMON ISLANDS AND ONE SHORT CLUB FROM SOUTH AMERICA.
ITS NEAT TO SEE THE PHILIPPINE MORO KRISES WITH THE DAYAK DESIGNS ON THEM. THE THIRD PICTURE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LAST GROUP IS OF A KRIS WITH A FIGURAL HANDLE. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON IT IN THE BOOK? I HAVE A KRIS WITH A SIMULAR FIGURAL HANDLE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PIN DOWN AS TO WHERE IT ORIGINATED.

migueldiaz · 28th September 2010, 07:44 PM

Battara, thanks.

Vandoo, when I was looking at those clubs in the various museums I visited, I actually thought of you, that those clubs are your cup of tea

On whether there's info on their books, unfortunately there's none.

celtan · 29th September 2010, 03:30 PM

Hola L.,

Did you happen to take pictures of the Spanish weapons in these museums, specially swords and daggers?

Saludos

Manuel

migueldiaz · 30th September 2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by celtan

Did you happen to take pictures of the Spanish weapons in these museums, specially swords and daggers?

Hola, Manuel! Not much, as I there were a lot of items, and I focused on Phil. weapons.

Below are pics of some of those few ones I was able to take. Regards.

Marc · 30th September 2010, 09:17 AM

These are from the Museo Naval, if I'm not mistaken. Spanish regulation (or at least Navy-used) Navy weapons.
There's a catalogue of the bladed weapons of the Museo Naval, but it excludes all the ethnographic section. It's in Spanish, also.

migueldiaz · 30th September 2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc

These are from the Museo Naval, if I'm not mistaken. Spanish regulation (or at least Navy-used) Navy weapons.
There's a catalogue of the bladed weapons of the Museo Naval, but it excludes all the ethnographic section. It's in Spanish, also.

Marc, thanks. Yes they are from Museo Naval.

On another matter, Vandoo was inquiring earlier whether war clubs were used in Philippines. At the storage of Victor Balaguer museum near Barcelona, I saw a club which was reportedly collected in the country in the 19th century.

But it still needs to be verified whether what's written on the club's handle really pertains to the name of the club and a place in Philippines.

celtan · 3rd October 2010, 01:18 AM

Pretties!

All from the mid-late 19th C. Own several of these.

Thanks L !

: )

Quote:

Originally Posted by migueldiaz

Hola, Manuel! Not much, as I there were a lot of items, and I focused on Phil. weapons.

Below are pics of some of those few ones I was able to take. Regards.

migueldiaz · 3rd October 2010, 10:01 PM

Marc, muchas gracias!

Gav, glad I can contribute to the body of knowledge. But the real thanks should go to the subject museums because they are very generous and helpful.

Vandoo, thanks for those insights.

Reichsritter, your expertise in Moro genealogies among others is surely well appreciated.

Manuel, the pics below are from the Victor Balaguer museum. The weapons sit side by side with the cabinets containing Filipino weapons. Would they be Spanish?

Thanks again to all.

29th September 2010, 03:30 PM	#4
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Hola L., Did you happen to take pictures of the Spanish weapons in these museums, specially swords and daggers? Saludos Manuel Last edited by celtan; 29th September 2010 at 03:43 PM.

3rd October 2010, 10:01 PM	#9
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Marc, muchas gracias! Gav, glad I can contribute to the body of knowledge. But the real thanks should go to the subject museums because they are very generous and helpful. Vandoo, thanks for those insights. Reichsritter, your expertise in Moro genealogies among others is surely well appreciated. Manuel, the pics below are from the Victor Balaguer museum. The weapons sit side by side with the cabinets containing Filipino weapons. Would they be Spanish? Thanks again to all. Attached Images

27th September 2010, 04:57 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Once again some great pictures. Thank you for all your efforts and hard work. Love the Bagobo shield.

27th September 2010, 05:57 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	GREAT PICTURES WITH AN INTERESTING SELECTION OF WAR CLUBS. IT LOOKS TO BE 5 CLUBS FIJI/TONGAN, 2 SAMOA, 1 SOLOMON ISLANDS AND ONE SHORT CLUB FROM SOUTH AMERICA. ITS NEAT TO SEE THE PHILIPPINE MORO KRISES WITH THE DAYAK DESIGNS ON THEM. THE THIRD PICTURE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE LAST GROUP IS OF A KRIS WITH A FIGURAL HANDLE. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON IT IN THE BOOK? I HAVE A KRIS WITH A SIMULAR FIGURAL HANDLE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PIN DOWN AS TO WHERE IT ORIGINATED.

28th September 2010, 07:44 PM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Battara, thanks. Vandoo, when I was looking at those clubs in the various museums I visited, I actually thought of you, that those clubs are your cup of tea On whether there's info on their books, unfortunately there's none.

30th September 2010, 09:17 AM	#6
Marc Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Madrid / Barcelona Posts: 256	These are from the Museo Naval, if I'm not mistaken. Spanish regulation (or at least Navy-used) Navy weapons. There's a catalogue of the bladed weapons of the Museo Naval, but it excludes all the ethnographic section. It's in Spanish, also.