Bugis Chieftain's Keris: does it exist?

khalifah muda · 21st September 2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Thank you. Helpful. But what then makes for a chieftain's blade?

To my experience, it should be a thick, stoud, a medium length, slender and very close luks.

Battara · 23rd September 2010, 01:12 AM

Very helpful, thank you. Is it possible to not have luks at all but be a straight blade?

khalifah muda · 23rd September 2010, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Very helpful, thank you. Is it possible to not have luks at all but be a straight blade?

It is possible but not seen so far. Luks represent certain status for individuals. For 'Chieftain', which means 'Penghulu' in Bahasa, is a man of status, sure there's luk.

Battara · 27th September 2010, 03:28 AM

Thank you for answering my question. Again, there is little information in the books about this subject.

Moshah · 29th September 2010, 01:09 PM

If penghulu keris must have luks, should it be of any numbers or a specific number of luks to be had there?

khalifah muda · 14th October 2010, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshah

If penghulu keris must have luks, should it be of any numbers or a specific number of luks to be had there?

Seen before, 5, 7 & 9.

Moshah · 21st October 2010, 03:53 AM

Yeah I've seen few with differ luk numbers, but I also heard that the real one should be of 7 luks, nothing more or less than that.

I can only speculate, but if the cheiftain keris do exist, there should be more specific standardization of the blade as much as the dress itself. Even though it is not a royal keris, but still it should be addressing some kind of status, hence the differences as compared to normal kerises, wouldn't they?

23rd September 2010, 01:12 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Very helpful, thank you. Is it possible to not have luks at all but be a straight blade?

27th September 2010, 03:28 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Thank you for answering my question. Again, there is little information in the books about this subject.

29th September 2010, 01:09 PM	#5
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	If penghulu keris must have luks, should it be of any numbers or a specific number of luks to be had there?

21st October 2010, 03:53 AM	#7
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Yeah I've seen few with differ luk numbers, but I also heard that the real one should be of 7 luks, nothing more or less than that. I can only speculate, but if the cheiftain keris do exist, there should be more specific standardization of the blade as much as the dress itself. Even though it is not a royal keris, but still it should be addressing some kind of status, hence the differences as compared to normal kerises, wouldn't they?