Ancestor hilt or tourist piece?

David · 18th September 2010, 03:51 PM

Gentlemen, i'd just like focus this discussion just a little back to ancestor hilts that are intended for keris. I realize Sirek and i opened the door for this when we posted our hilts trying to determine if Mr. Wizard's example was originally intended to be for a keris. After seeing Alan's grouping i'd say it is very possible that Mr. W's hilt was indeed always meant for a keris. Does anyone have more of these hilts that are been used on keris?

A. G. Maisey · 18th September 2010, 10:33 PM

David, I'm not at all sure that the ones I've shown are all for keris.

#5 is definitely for a pelecok

I think #1 might be for a keris, because the base is pretty much the right size for a large Madura style mendak, and the hole for the tang is about right for a keris, and it feels right for a keris.

#3 has got a keris look and feel to it also.

However, #2 & #4 I'm not at all sure of. They might be handles for some kind of knife, or even for some tool or other. I just don't know.

I also have a few pedang or klewang hilts that are carved to one degree or another as figures, similar type of primitive, unprofessional carving.

I've actually seen a kitchen knife that a friend in Jawa uses that she has carved a human face into the pommel end of.

David · 18th September 2010, 10:42 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Alan. I personally really enjoy your #3.

A. G. Maisey · 18th September 2010, 10:55 PM

I reckon #3 looks like one of those little grey blokes that you see getting out UFO's.

David · 18th September 2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I reckon #3 looks like one of those little grey blokes that you see getting out UFO's.

Yes, i think that's what i like about him.

Jussi M. · 18th September 2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

I reckon #3 looks like one of those little grey blokes that you see getting out UFO's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Yes, i think that's what i like about him.

Pamor?

David · 19th September 2010, 02:02 AM

I think you've got the wrong alien there Jussi...

18th September 2010, 03:51 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Gentlemen, i'd just like focus this discussion just a little back to ancestor hilts that are intended for keris. I realize Sirek and i opened the door for this when we posted our hilts trying to determine if Mr. Wizard's example was originally intended to be for a keris. After seeing Alan's grouping i'd say it is very possible that Mr. W's hilt was indeed always meant for a keris. Does anyone have more of these hilts that are been used on keris?

18th September 2010, 10:33 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	David, I'm not at all sure that the ones I've shown are all for keris. #5 is definitely for a pelecok I think #1 might be for a keris, because the base is pretty much the right size for a large Madura style mendak, and the hole for the tang is about right for a keris, and it feels right for a keris. #3 has got a keris look and feel to it also. However, #2 & #4 I'm not at all sure of. They might be handles for some kind of knife, or even for some tool or other. I just don't know. I also have a few pedang or klewang hilts that are carved to one degree or another as figures, similar type of primitive, unprofessional carving. I've actually seen a kitchen knife that a friend in Jawa uses that she has carved a human face into the pommel end of.

18th September 2010, 10:42 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks for clearing that up Alan. I personally really enjoy your #3.

18th September 2010, 10:55 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	I reckon #3 looks like one of those little grey blokes that you see getting out UFO's.

19th September 2010, 02:02 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	I think you've got the wrong alien there Jussi...