Keris Betok on Ebay

David · 12th September 2010, 03:29 PM

Well of course it could be fake. I doubt very much that we could possibly reach any conclusion based solely on these photographs. I notice quite a lot of these coming though ePray on a regular basis. Sometimes they list them as new, sometimes not. Sorting out the difference without the experience and hands-on examination is only guess work IMO.

Did it sell BTW?

mykeris · 12th September 2010, 03:32 PM

taken David.tq

mykeris · 12th September 2010, 03:38 PM

just checking, is the genuine one heavy or lighter? tq

A. G. Maisey · 12th September 2010, 10:58 PM

I will very seldom commit myself on the basis of a photo viewed on a computer screen, however I am prepared to commit myself here.

This keris is most definitely not an old keris.

mykeris · 13th September 2010, 01:30 AM

Noted and thanks Alan, excellent opinion. Mykeris.

PenangsangII · 13th September 2010, 02:58 AM

I am wondering about it too.... is the genuine old ones lighter or heavier.... I've seen very light weight and thin bladed jalak buda but it was found in South Sulawesi (dressed Javanese). It seemed quite old probably more than 300 yrs old. But still I am quite skeptical whether it was a genuine blade or not. Please enlighten.

A. G. Maisey · 13th September 2010, 03:18 AM

There's a lot more to it than just being light or heavy, Penangsang.

I've focussed on archaic blades for many years, and have a fairly good collection of them, however, I will not post photos of my personal keris, so I'm sorry, but I cannot give examples.

With this particular one I know through personal experience exactly what I am looking at, and this is because of a combination of factors, factors that I am not prepared to expand upon here.

Still, it is only an opinion, and everybody is entitled to their own.

12th September 2010, 03:29 PM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	Well of course it could be fake. I doubt very much that we could possibly reach any conclusion based solely on these photographs. I notice quite a lot of these coming though ePray on a regular basis. Sometimes they list them as new, sometimes not. Sorting out the difference without the experience and hands-on examination is only guess work IMO. Did it sell BTW?

12th September 2010, 03:32 PM	#2
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	taken David.tq

12th September 2010, 03:38 PM	#3
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	just checking, is the genuine one heavy or lighter? tq

12th September 2010, 10:58 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	I will very seldom commit myself on the basis of a photo viewed on a computer screen, however I am prepared to commit myself here. This keris is most definitely not an old keris.

13th September 2010, 01:30 AM	#5
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Noted and thanks Alan, excellent opinion. Mykeris.

13th September 2010, 02:58 AM	#6
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	I am wondering about it too.... is the genuine old ones lighter or heavier.... I've seen very light weight and thin bladed jalak buda but it was found in South Sulawesi (dressed Javanese). It seemed quite old probably more than 300 yrs old. But still I am quite skeptical whether it was a genuine blade or not. Please enlighten.

13th September 2010, 03:18 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	There's a lot more to it than just being light or heavy, Penangsang. I've focussed on archaic blades for many years, and have a fairly good collection of them, however, I will not post photos of my personal keris, so I'm sorry, but I cannot give examples. With this particular one I know through personal experience exactly what I am looking at, and this is because of a combination of factors, factors that I am not prepared to expand upon here. Still, it is only an opinion, and everybody is entitled to their own.