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[A. G. Maisey]

Thank you for your clarification, Semar.

As has often been stated in this Forum, it is extremely difficult to provide a supportable opinion on tangguh from even the very best and most comprehensive set of photographs.

However, having said that, I am more than prepared to state unequivocally that this blade does not resemble in even the smallest degree any blade that I would recognise as a candidate for classification as Majapahit.

I will go further, and state that it also does resemble in any way, any tangguh classification that I would recognise as possibly pre-dating Majapahit.

I will allow that it could perhaps come from the geographical location of Majapahit, ie , East Jawa, but at a much later date than the date which we associate with Majapahit, ie, pre 1525.

Still, tangguh is only an opinion, and we all have opinions that are inevitably based upon either our knowledge and experience, or perhaps our integrity. Others can accept or reject an opinion as it suits them.

[semar]

yes I agree but I think it will be nice to have a dissusion about the tangguh how you can see that it is singosari ore mataram ,enz when it stops with rain I will try to make some bettere pictures

regards semar

[A. G. Maisey]

Semar, I have repeatedly said that it is almost impossible in most cases to provide a defensible opinion on tangguh based upon photographs.

From a photo we can see broadly what a blade might be, but we cannot provide a defensible opinion. The best we can do when try to discuss tangguh upon the basis of photographs is talk nonsense that can make us look like idiots.

Enough people consider me to be a bit of an idiot as it is, for even taking part in public, online discussions, so I will not add to my idiot fan club by making any further comments relating to the possible tangguh of this keris.

[semar]

oke I see your point

regards semar