turkish ottoman officers sword writing

Lee · 25th August 2010, 06:32 PM

Received by e-mail:

Salaam,
This is Efdaluddin Kilic from Istanbul. I am a calligrapher and sort of expert on Ottoman texts. I have been asked about a sword this morning by one of my friends and while searching I came across with your website. The same sword on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11300 is in front of me at home now. And to be a sort of help to your forum the inscription reads in Turkish but with the Islamic letters ¨ ALLAH BIZIMLE¨ and means ¨Allah (God) is with us¨.
Cordially,
Efdaluddin Kilic
www.efdaluddin.com/

broadaxe · 28th August 2010, 01:43 PM

Interesting enough and good that the subject emerged again. I received an identical sword for research and identification a couple of days ago. Same marks, full double edge blade is 17" long and of pretty good quality. It is very sharp, not the regular arsenal edge. I've encountered several WWI-era turkish military swords, also curved - these were usualy very similar to the German officer's saber of the period, but of inferior quality. I also held naval short sword with marine motifs. That straight sword may have been also police issue, 1910 model.

mavi1970 · 30th August 2010, 12:29 AM

well since i aquired that sword i have bought another 4 similari, one short but 3 same, and sharp as this one. just adding to my collection. most have the same writing. variations are evident though.

25th August 2010, 06:32 PM	#1
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 970	Help from Istanbul Received by e-mail: Salaam, This is Efdaluddin Kilic from Istanbul. I am a calligrapher and sort of expert on Ottoman texts. I have been asked about a sword this morning by one of my friends and while searching I came across with your website. The same sword on http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11300 is in front of me at home now. And to be a sort of help to your forum the inscription reads in Turkish but with the Islamic letters ¨ ALLAH BIZIMLE¨ and means ¨Allah (God) is with us¨. Cordially, Efdaluddin Kilic www.efdaluddin.com/

28th August 2010, 01:43 PM	#2
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	Interesting enough and good that the subject emerged again. I received an identical sword for research and identification a couple of days ago. Same marks, full double edge blade is 17" long and of pretty good quality. It is very sharp, not the regular arsenal edge. I've encountered several WWI-era turkish military swords, also curved - these were usualy very similar to the German officer's saber of the period, but of inferior quality. I also held naval short sword with marine motifs. That straight sword may have been also police issue, 1910 model.

30th August 2010, 12:29 AM	#3
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	well since i aquired that sword i have bought another 4 similari, one short but 3 same, and sharp as this one. just adding to my collection. most have the same writing. variations are evident though.