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			Join Date: Dec 2004 
				Location: OKLAHOMA, USA 
				
				
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			WELCOME TO THE FORUM   
		
		
		
			  I COLLECT CLUBS SO IT IS IN THE SAME CATAGORY AND THE GRANDFATHER OF THE MACE. I HAVE LITTLE KNOWLEGE OF THE MACE. I CONSIDER THOSE WITH WOOD, STONE OR BONE TO BE CLUBS PERHAPS THEY BECOME A MACE WITH THE INVENTION OF A METAL HEAD FOR STRIKING?. THAT IS MY WAY OF SEPARATING THE TWO I MAY BE RIGHT OR WRONG   THE CLUB OR MACE OFTEN BECOMES A SYMBOL OF ATHORITY OR A STANDARD FOR THE TRIBE RATHER THAN A WEAPON SINCE TRIBAL TIMES UNTIL THE PRESENT. YOU SHOW THREE VERY NICE EXAMPLES OF THE FLANGED MACE AS WELL AS SOME HORSETAIL STANDARDS. I AM NOT SURE THE STANDARDS EVOLVED FROM WAR CLUBS AS THE MACE DID. I SUSPECT THE LONGER ONES EVOLVED FROM SPEARS OR LANCES WHICH THEY MORE CLOSELY RESEMBLE. THATS JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH AS I HAVE VERY LITTLE KNOWLEGE IN THE FEILD. PERHAPS YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN ME    AFTER ALL THAT IS WHAT THE FORUM IS ALL ABOUT. UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE NO MACES BUT WILL SHARE A FEW PICTURES. 5. SEPTER, HAPSBURGS, AUSTRIA WITH NARWHAL HANDLE. 4. GERMAN IRON MACE 3. 5.1 CM GERMAN BRONZE MACE 2. 3X7CM. EUROPEAN BRONZE MACE 1. TWO VICUS BRONZE MACES 6. 4 INCH DIAMETER VICUS BRONZE MACE THE VICUS MACES ARE FROM PRE COLUMBIAN TIMES IN SOUTH AMERICA. MACES WERE EVIDENTLY WIDELY USED THERE THOUGH MOST ARE STONE.  | 
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