Warangan

David · 16th July 2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Haha, my turn to be critical! Good work but I notice some residual red rust under the stain one third up the blade? Or is it poor maintenance from Rick?

Well Jean, as i stated further back in this thread "Frankly this looks much like the kind of results i get when i stain and i don't consider my skills at this work to be particular laudable." I know that i would never refer to my own warangan work as impressive.

However, i can assure you that there is no residual rust here. There is an bit of unevenness in the way the stain took in that area of the blade. I actually did Rick's blade twice and when the same thing happened in that area the second time i let it be with my apologies to him.

I guess since he wasn't paying for the job he was happy with.

And yes, the blade is gonjo iras IMO. Nice blade, i almost didn't send it back to him.

Rick · 16th July 2010, 03:42 PM

Yes, David is correct .

This color change is located about where a sepuhan line would appear .

Def. not rust .
Pamor ?
Something kind of like uler lulut; but what's in a name ?

I have seen FECL also do the same browning thing to certain ferrous metals .

Before .....

Jean · 16th July 2010, 04:08 PM

Thank you David and Rick.

Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color.
By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin.
Best regards
Jean

Rick · 16th July 2010, 04:25 PM

Correct Jean .
Ferric Chloride .
I never did well in Chemistry .

Bill M · 12th August 2010, 06:29 AM

How about HiOAg?

That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

How about HiOAg?
That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

lol old chemistry joke...

Se compounds could do the job...But i stil dont have figured out witch one wil do best. There are several Oxide compounds that contain Se...Help aspriciated!!

regards

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Thank you David and Rick.

Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color.
By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin.
Best regards
Jean

hmm orange..

Fecl3 thought it was bit grey/pinkisch and with O2 contact becomes brownisch/black...... And FeSO4 is green isnt it???

P.S. the orange/redisch one is K3[Fe(CN)6]Potassium ferricyanide

EDIT>>> FeCl3 Hexa Hydrate is orange coloured.....I missed that one.. my appolegies

Other FeCl3 salts are grey to black

Bill M · 12th August 2010, 02:35 PM

Have a friend in Germany who is involved in cancer research. I think that he uses arsenic trioxide. If you know someone in that field, locally, they might have some ideas about where and how to obtain it.

I once contacted a chemical supply house that offered to mail some to me, but they had to deliver to a commercial location.

kulbuntet · 12th August 2010, 11:49 PM

Hi Bill,

I stil have enough here, and am able to get more when i need. So i dont have to worrie for the next couple of years.

16th July 2010, 03:42 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	Yes, David is correct . This color change is located about where a sepuhan line would appear . Def. not rust . Pamor ? Something kind of like uler lulut; but what's in a name ? I have seen FECL also do the same browning thing to certain ferrous metals . Before ..... Attached Images

16th July 2010, 04:08 PM	#3
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Thank you David and Rick. Rick, what do you mean by FECL, I assume that it is ferric chloride or FeCl3? Ferric salts have indeed an orange color. By the way I have one blade from Lombok with a golden shade on the pamor and do not know the origin. Best regards Jean

16th July 2010, 04:25 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,378	Correct Jean . Ferric Chloride . I never did well in Chemistry .

12th August 2010, 06:29 AM	#5
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	How about HiOAg? That is "Hi Oh Silver!" from the Lone Ranger

12th August 2010, 02:35 PM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Have a friend in Germany who is involved in cancer research. I think that he uses arsenic trioxide. If you know someone in that field, locally, they might have some ideas about where and how to obtain it. I once contacted a chemical supply house that offered to mail some to me, but they had to deliver to a commercial location.

12th August 2010, 11:49 PM	#9
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Hi Bill, I stil have enough here, and am able to get more when i need. So i dont have to worrie for the next couple of years.