New Info on Panay Sandukos

Battara · 31st May 2010, 08:20 PM

Here are more pictures from the Iloilo Museum:

Maurice · 31st May 2010, 09:50 PM

Thank you for this interesting information.

So if I understand it right, the sanduko (taribong) has always an extended nose (when not broken ofcourse) and is made by the highlanders, unlike the tenegre which has a short nose and made by the lowlanders.

Does the bladeshape has anything to do with being high- or lowlanders? Or are the different shapes used by both?

Maurice

TVV · 31st May 2010, 09:53 PM

Great information, thank you!

Battara · 31st May 2010, 11:36 PM

My understanding is the the nomenclature does not apply to the blades. I have seen the same type of blades used on both highlander and lowlander pieces. There may be nomenclature for blade types as well, but the types are shared between both peoples.

migueldiaz · 1st June 2010, 01:38 AM

hi battara, thanks for starting this thread! we sure would all like to clarify these many terms pertaining to filipino swords.

just some minor clarifications please, if i may add

-- nacho does not work for the iloilo [panay island, visayas] museum, but i understand he is one of its benefactors. and in post no. 2, those pieces are privately owned (but yes, they are truly museum-quality ones).

for everybody's info, 'bukid' in the philippines means farm/field or rural. one living in a bukid is called a 'bukidnon'. thus, bukidnon is a generic term.

'bukidnon' more popularly refers to a mindanao province (as maurice mentioned), originally exclusively inhabited by lumad peoples.

but as also mentioned, the highlanders of panay island in the visayas also call themselves bukidnon, that is, panay bukidnon.

Battara · 1st June 2010, 02:46 AM

Thank you for the corrections. Much appreciated and helpful.

And yes the sanduko or taribong always has a long nose.

ThePepperSkull · 1st June 2010, 03:38 AM

Very great stuff, Battara! My mother was from ilo ilo so learning about the region`s bladed weaponry is very interesting.

31st May 2010, 08:20 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Here are more pictures from the Iloilo Museum: Attached Images

31st May 2010, 09:50 PM	#2
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Thank you for this interesting information. So if I understand it right, the sanduko (taribong) has always an extended nose (when not broken ofcourse) and is made by the highlanders, unlike the tenegre which has a short nose and made by the lowlanders. Does the bladeshape has anything to do with being high- or lowlanders? Or are the different shapes used by both? Maurice

31st May 2010, 09:53 PM	#3
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	Great information, thank you!

31st May 2010, 11:36 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	My understanding is the the nomenclature does not apply to the blades. I have seen the same type of blades used on both highlander and lowlander pieces. There may be nomenclature for blade types as well, but the types are shared between both peoples.

1st June 2010, 01:38 AM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	hi battara, thanks for starting this thread! we sure would all like to clarify these many terms pertaining to filipino swords. just some minor clarifications please, if i may add -- nacho does not work for the iloilo [panay island, visayas] museum, but i understand he is one of its benefactors. and in post no. 2, those pieces are privately owned (but yes, they are truly museum-quality ones). for everybody's info, 'bukid' in the philippines means farm/field or rural. one living in a bukid is called a 'bukidnon'. thus, bukidnon is a generic term. 'bukidnon' more popularly refers to a mindanao province (as maurice mentioned), originally exclusively inhabited by lumad peoples. but as also mentioned, the highlanders of panay island in the visayas also call themselves bukidnon, that is, panay bukidnon.

1st June 2010, 02:46 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Thank you for the corrections. Much appreciated and helpful. And yes the sanduko or taribong always has a long nose.

1st June 2010, 03:38 AM	#7
ThePepperSkull Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 338	Very great stuff, Battara! My mother was from ilo ilo so learning about the region`s bladed weaponry is very interesting.