oceanic club? what's it?

kahnjar1 · 8th May 2010, 08:23 PM

I think that the local Pharmacy could maybe help you with that nasty attack of whatever it is.....

The shape of the "points" on your club remind me strongly of the style of some of the PNG arrow points, so....maybe from there??

Lew · 8th May 2010, 09:20 PM

Tim

You were auditioning for Road Warrior 4 and forgot to come out of character correct?

katana · 9th May 2010, 12:41 PM

So thats what Elvis would do......if you trod on his Blue Suede Shoes

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fearn · 9th May 2010, 04:07 PM

I'm thinking blunted and shortened Samoan or Tongan spear, myself. File down the points, cut off a bit of the shaft...

My question is whether it was cut down for transport to the UK, or cut down and used in the Pacific--basically, whether it's a repurposed spear used as a club or a curio.

Best,

F

Tim Simmons · 9th May 2010, 05:38 PM

Looks like a cut down spear to me?

VANDOO · 9th May 2010, 07:11 PM

MOST FIJI CLUBS WERE DESIGNED AS CRUSHERS AND BONE BREAKERS AND MOST WOULD CRACK A SKULL WITH ONE GOOD SOLID HIT. THOUGH YOUR SPECIMIN WOULD CERTIANLY RAISE A GOOD KNOT ON A SKULL AND PERHAPS CAUSE A KNOCK- OUT, IT DOSEN'T APPEAR TO HAVE THE MASS OR EDGE TO DELIVER A CRUSHING BLOW.
THE BLUNT END DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A RECENT CUT OFF FOR TRANSPORT IN A SUITCASE AND DOES APPEAR TO SHOW SOME WEAR POSSIBLY FROM USE. IT IS LIKELY IF A SPEAR WAS BROKEN OFF IT MAY HAVE BEEN MODIFIED FOR USE AS A LIGHT CLUB/SPEAR TYPE OF WEAPON RATHER THAN DISCARDED. THE CURIOUS THING ABOUT THIS IS IF I WAS GOING TO USE THIS AS A SHORT WEAPON I WOULD HAVE PUT A POINT ON BOTH ENDS. IT WOULD SEEM THE LOGICAL THING TO DO IF I WAS A WARRIOR.

THE CARVEING ON THE SPEAR HEAD END NARROWS IT DOWN TO OCEANIC FOR ME

BUT WAS USED IN SO MANY AREAS IT WILL REGUIRE MORE KNOWLEGE OR BETTER REFRENCES THAN I POSESS TO PIN IT DOWN EXACTLY.

Tim Simmons · 9th May 2010, 07:26 PM

All valid opinions thank you. I just thought I would come up with some links to make us familiar with the objects that are suggested as the origin. My piece is 52 inches long. Compare with these pole clubs.

http://faganarms.com/18thcentury-pre...clubbowai.aspx

http://www.cinoa.org/exhibits/62410

Lets not forget what a true wood spear looks like?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...lanesian+spear

8th May 2010, 09:20 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim You were auditioning for Road Warrior 4 and forgot to come out of character correct? Attached Images

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katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	So thats what Elvis would do......if you trod on his Blue Suede Shoes . Attached Images

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	Looks like a cut down spear to me? Attached Images

9th May 2010, 07:26 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,844	All valid opinions thank you. I just thought I would come up with some links to make us familiar with the objects that are suggested as the origin. My piece is 52 inches long. Compare with these pole clubs. http://faganarms.com/18thcentury-pre...clubbowai.aspx http://www.cinoa.org/exhibits/62410 Lets not forget what a true wood spear looks like? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...lanesian+spear Last edited by Tim Simmons; 9th May 2010 at 07:45 PM.

8th May 2010, 08:23 PM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,786	I think that the local Pharmacy could maybe help you with that nasty attack of whatever it is..... The shape of the "points" on your club remind me strongly of the style of some of the PNG arrow points, so....maybe from there??

9th May 2010, 04:07 PM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	I'm thinking blunted and shortened Samoan or Tongan spear, myself. File down the points, cut off a bit of the shaft... My question is whether it was cut down for transport to the UK, or cut down and used in the Pacific--basically, whether it's a repurposed spear used as a club or a curio. Best, F

9th May 2010, 07:11 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MOST FIJI CLUBS WERE DESIGNED AS CRUSHERS AND BONE BREAKERS AND MOST WOULD CRACK A SKULL WITH ONE GOOD SOLID HIT. THOUGH YOUR SPECIMIN WOULD CERTIANLY RAISE A GOOD KNOT ON A SKULL AND PERHAPS CAUSE A KNOCK- OUT, IT DOSEN'T APPEAR TO HAVE THE MASS OR EDGE TO DELIVER A CRUSHING BLOW. THE BLUNT END DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A RECENT CUT OFF FOR TRANSPORT IN A SUITCASE AND DOES APPEAR TO SHOW SOME WEAR POSSIBLY FROM USE. IT IS LIKELY IF A SPEAR WAS BROKEN OFF IT MAY HAVE BEEN MODIFIED FOR USE AS A LIGHT CLUB/SPEAR TYPE OF WEAPON RATHER THAN DISCARDED. THE CURIOUS THING ABOUT THIS IS IF I WAS GOING TO USE THIS AS A SHORT WEAPON I WOULD HAVE PUT A POINT ON BOTH ENDS. IT WOULD SEEM THE LOGICAL THING TO DO IF I WAS A WARRIOR. THE CARVEING ON THE SPEAR HEAD END NARROWS IT DOWN TO OCEANIC FOR ME BUT WAS USED IN SO MANY AREAS IT WILL REGUIRE MORE KNOWLEGE OR BETTER REFRENCES THAN I POSESS TO PIN IT DOWN EXACTLY.