Comments on the blade of this Moro Kris?

Rick · 3rd June 2005, 10:00 PM

Michael , could I ask you for a close up shot of the area where the patterning ends near the point ?

Also has anyone else noticed the pronounced taper of the blade , or is that just a trick of the camera ?

I have a Budiak with a topographic center panel but we have all seen that a zillion times already so I won't waste server space by posting it again .

You posted the scabbard and hilt pics while I was writing and I must say that looks like genuine old patina .

VVV · 3rd June 2005, 10:18 PM

Sure Rick,

Unfortunately it's late here now.
This was the best I could do with the light.
Maybe I should try again tomorrow with daylight instead?

Thanks,

Michael

Rick · 3rd June 2005, 11:14 PM

Michael , you're great !
Pictures on demand !

This is no wax resist ; I think that if it were etched (please don't) it would show an added on edge of regular laminate much as my budiak has or this sword :

Lew · 3rd June 2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Michael , you're great !
Pictures on demand !

This is no wax resist ; I think that if it were etched (please don't) it would show an added on edge of regular laminate much as my budiak has or this sword :

I stand corrected!

Lew

Rick · 3rd June 2005, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

I stand corrected!

Lew

Hi Lew , when I first wondered about a resist I was wondering if the pattern itself was drawn in wax . Now I'm thinking that the smooth edges were the resist covered area and the acid was allowed to work on the center panel to bring out the patterning .

BluErf · 4th June 2005, 12:49 AM

Our fellow forumnite, Mr Paul De Souza, has a Sulu Moro kris with identical sheath. This is the 3rd example I've seen (2nd one was on ebay). Very nicely executed piece.

The blade looks very different though. Sorry I do not have a picture with me. Paul's piece is a luk 5 piece, also with a centre etch. However, blade is very slim and lanky. This blade here feels broad and substantial. Maybe a difference between newer-style and older-style blade?

Rick · 4th June 2005, 01:03 AM

Most likely Blu , the older blades were much narrower as a general rule .

( No , I'm not going to post another pic of my 'archaic' kris ; Nechesh would explode

)

Bill · 3rd June 2005, 11:21 PM

Thanks for the additional pics. The scabbard does look old & a Sulu look to it. Is the extended piece of the hilt new?, it looks like there is a hole in it for a wooden dowel or screw. The pattern looks genuine, but how was it etched so deeply. seems that something was left on it for days or even weeks to go so deep.

VVV · 3rd June 2005, 11:30 PM

Bill,

The grain on the reglued part of the hilt matches the other.
It looks like it just broke off.
The hole is more like a small dent. Similar to where small stones could be attached.

Thanks,

Michael

3rd June 2005, 10:18 PM	#2
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Sure Rick, Unfortunately it's late here now. This was the best I could do with the light. Maybe I should try again tomorrow with daylight instead? Thanks, Michael Attached Images

3rd June 2005, 11:14 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Michael , you're great ! Pictures on demand ! This is no wax resist ; I think that if it were etched (please don't) it would show an added on edge of regular laminate much as my budiak has or this sword : Attached Images

3rd June 2005, 10:00 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Michael , could I ask you for a close up shot of the area where the patterning ends near the point ? Also has anyone else noticed the pronounced taper of the blade , or is that just a trick of the camera ? I have a Budiak with a topographic center panel but we have all seen that a zillion times already so I won't waste server space by posting it again . You posted the scabbard and hilt pics while I was writing and I must say that looks like genuine old patina .

4th June 2005, 12:49 AM	#6
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Our fellow forumnite, Mr Paul De Souza, has a Sulu Moro kris with identical sheath. This is the 3rd example I've seen (2nd one was on ebay). Very nicely executed piece. The blade looks very different though. Sorry I do not have a picture with me. Paul's piece is a luk 5 piece, also with a centre etch. However, blade is very slim and lanky. This blade here feels broad and substantial. Maybe a difference between newer-style and older-style blade?

4th June 2005, 01:03 AM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Most likely Blu , the older blades were much narrower as a general rule . ( No , I'm not going to post another pic of my 'archaic' kris ; Nechesh would explode )

3rd June 2005, 11:21 PM	#8
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Thanks for the additional pics. The scabbard does look old & a Sulu look to it. Is the extended piece of the hilt new?, it looks like there is a hole in it for a wooden dowel or screw. The pattern looks genuine, but how was it etched so deeply. seems that something was left on it for days or even weeks to go so deep.

3rd June 2005, 11:30 PM	#9
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Bill, The grain on the reglued part of the hilt matches the other. It looks like it just broke off. The hole is more like a small dent. Similar to where small stones could be attached. Thanks, Michael