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Vlad's Duels
Here's an experience of mine, and a warning to anyone trying to research Vlad III "Țepeș". It started with my viewing of this video about a year ago (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NA34EZACkWY), where it says that Țepeș fought two duels for the throne of Wallachia. One with Vladislav II, the other with Dan III. I decided to look it up, and started with the Wikipedia article on Vladislav III in Romanian. No mention of a duel. There is one in Wiki English, but no source is provided... so not trust worthy. Even less could be found for Dan III. The only historical source that I could find was from "Letopisețul Cantacuzinesc - Istoria Țării Rumânești de când au descălecat pravoslavnicii creștini" which said: Quote:
You may be wondering. "Sabre/sabie"? In 1456? Shouldn't it be "sword/spată". But you see, the text was written in the late 1600s, so nothing to write home about. Thus, no word of a duel. Confirmation for this lack of any duels came only recently with this video by Corpus Draculianum group which clearly states that there is no evidence for these duels happening https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i6mtzCJWF5Y Why do I believe them? Because they are the best source of info on Vlad Țepeș that I have found thus far, and recommend them to anybody interested in this topic. I can't recommend however the following (anything that uses Florescu and McNally as a source really): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MY82EpsvbQ8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCjc5OwBi4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NA34EZACkWY I can recommend this part 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RoBspQiOiE and the Corpus Draculianum channel (audio is in Romanian, but there are English captions). |
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Damn! Found another one of those depictions. This one is from Códice De Trajes, 1547.
http://warfare.ueuo.com/Renaissance/...Trajes-59v.htm And here's what that hat is "Mamluk red zamṭ hat". So his hat was very much associated with the Mamluks. http://blog.slow-venice.com/fashion-...demia-gallery/ http://warfare.ga/16/Carpaccio-St_Ge...nites-zamt.htm https://www.rct.uk/collection/990062...uk-dignitaries https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...the_Louvre.jpg https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File...giorgio_01.jpg So the similarity between Wallachian and Mamluk depictions seems to be a coincidence only. |
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http://bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=0000052132&page=1 Searching in connection with this new version I found that according to at least one 16th century Wappenbuch, the coat of arms seen in some of the versions was attributed to Osman I. I am quite sure that this should not be taken literally, but instead symbolizes the transfer of authority from the Byzantines to the Ottomans. http://www.hubert-herald.nl/ByzantiumArms.htm |
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Here's another example how depictions get reused over time.
1 Báthory Zsigmond and George I Rákóczi. https://ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiși...gmond_1596.jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...II_Rakoczy.jpg 2 Michael the Brave and Gheorghe Ștefan https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...i_Viteazul.jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...and_02_311.jpg ======================== Also, another example of that wool hat that Wallachians are depicted with. Portrait of Michael the Brave. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...i_Viteazul.jpg |
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Here's another example of the same depiction used for two different people, Bathory Istvan and False Dmitry I.
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...33_-_1586).jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...ump-to-license |
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This just gets weirder and weirder.
1 - two Michael the Brave portraits combined to give on Andrei Movilă/Andrzej Mohyła. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...i_Viteazul.jpg https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...aiViteazul.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rij_Mohyla.jpg 2 - how about this portrait of Bethlen Gabor (see attached picture), which is actually another portrait of Michael the Brave. Although this likely is a more modern mistaken identity. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki..._Viteazul).png Last edited by Teisani; 24th January 2023 at 08:03 PM. |
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