1822 British Lancer Mameluke

JT88 · 4th February 2022, 04:26 AM

Fair points. At this point I think we can only break it down into knowns, possibilities and unknowns:

Known: ivory handle, ottoman blade 16-17th century by characteristics

Possibility: made pre 1822 regulation due to leather scabbard, Lancers by designs on scabbard

Unknown: maker of blade, maker of sheath

I think the designs on the scabbard NOT being found on anything other Lancers swords is semi-evidence of Lancer ownership. The regulation about scabbard material also points to pre-1822.

Incredible sword, was hoping to find more sources but doesn’t seem to be a ton on these anywhere. Dellars companion volume is in the mail.

kronckew · 4th February 2022, 02:41 PM

Bryce, I love that pipeback sword with the feathered tip!

I recall Prosser made similar wide pipebacks for officers in the very early 19c.

Bryce · 4th February 2022, 09:13 PM

I just found this image in my files. I don't know the source. It appears to have a Persian shamshir blade and the cross guard and scabbard bands associated with lancers.

G'day Kronckew,
The 45th regiment mameluke is by Prosser. Here is a shot of two quillpoints in my collection. The bottom celtic hilt is also marked to Prosser, while the mameluke is unmarked.
Cheers,
Bryce

Will M · 4th February 2022, 11:01 PM

Great Celtic hilt. I know someone who recently found one but won't part with it.

Calien · 5th February 2022, 06:56 AM

Here is a Infantry Officer Mameluke 1815-1817 thats how long the furbisher was around for so its easy to date.

4th February 2022, 09:13 PM	#3
Bryce Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: North Queensland, Australia Posts: 201	I just found this image in my files. I don't know the source. It appears to have a Persian shamshir blade and the cross guard and scabbard bands associated with lancers. G'day Kronckew, The 45th regiment mameluke is by Prosser. Here is a shot of two quillpoints in my collection. The bottom celtic hilt is also marked to Prosser, while the mameluke is unmarked. Cheers, Bryce Attached Images

5th February 2022, 06:56 AM	#5
Calien Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 38	Here is a Infantry Officer Mameluke 1815-1817 thats how long the furbisher was around for so its easy to date. Attached Images

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4th February 2022, 04:26 AM	#1
JT88 Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 52	Fair points. At this point I think we can only break it down into knowns, possibilities and unknowns: Known: ivory handle, ottoman blade 16-17th century by characteristics Possibility: made pre 1822 regulation due to leather scabbard, Lancers by designs on scabbard Unknown: maker of blade, maker of sheath I think the designs on the scabbard NOT being found on anything other Lancers swords is semi-evidence of Lancer ownership. The regulation about scabbard material also points to pre-1822. Incredible sword, was hoping to find more sources but doesn’t seem to be a ton on these anywhere. Dellars companion volume is in the mail.

4th February 2022, 02:41 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,285	Bryce, I love that pipeback sword with the feathered tip! I recall Prosser made similar wide pipebacks for officers in the very early 19c.

4th February 2022, 11:01 PM	#4
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 431	Great Celtic hilt. I know someone who recently found one but won't part with it.