Collection of Sajen

Kulino · 27th August 2017, 12:09 PM

Dear all,
The next couple of posts will be of sajen which came in special boxes, sometimes linened with velvet or other fabrics, with a headrest and accompanied by special stone, dried flowers, padi, etc. There is even one with a thank you letter supposedly signed by PB XII. Pity I can't show the scented oils...

Kulino · 27th August 2017, 01:48 PM

Dear all,
This concludes the posting of this collection. My dear friend who collected these keris over the time of his life was a very private person. I'm sure he would have hated it that I would mention his name. Nevertheless I don't see any other way to give him the credits he so deserves publicly. Cees Hendriks, thank you for your friendship, for entrusting me with this legacy and for so many things more.

I hope you will honour his memory by using this database in a good way. For generating knowledge, understanding and preserving this wonderful cultural heritage within its context.
If you have questions or special requests concerning this collection, I will try to accommodate.

Kulino

Kulino · 27th August 2017, 01:53 PM

To conclude this posting of pictures of sajen, I'll add the one which was which I posted earlier.

Sajen · 27th August 2017, 03:41 PM

Hello Kulino,

thank you very much for continue this thread and for sharing this magnificent collection with us, also the in the other forum.
Cees Hendriks has put a great collection together, may your friend rest in peace!

Best regards,
Detlef

Jean · 27th August 2017, 05:14 PM

I second Sajen's comment, what a fantastic collection, my congratulations and also to your late friend Cees Hendriks!
It deserves to be shown in an exhibition or at least a catalogue or book for the benefit of all the collectors!
Regards
Jean

David · 27th August 2017, 07:41 PM

I must concur with my fellows here. For me these are always great to see even if it is difficult to come up with any solid information about them.
This is obviously an old form that i would image probably predates the Mojopahit era that they were once named for. It does seem that they continued to create these little talismanic blades over many centuries without much change so it is indeed difficult to place them into any particular time period with much accuracy. Certainly i believe the in post #32 with the separate gonjo and greneng is a fairly recent example and may or may not have been created solely as an "art" piece. However, if i am not mistaken, even keris sajen that are more recent (created within the last 200 years) may well have been made for genuine talismanic purposes so i don't necessarily discount these newer examples as reproductions or copies, just a continuance of an old tradition. Certainly 18th and 19th century examples of keris sajen were not being made for collector consumption.
On dating these beyond aspects of wear and condition it seems likely that the simpler examples are more likely older. I think the earliest examples tend to be pamor-less, small and very basic. Later examples began to add pamor and sometimes more extensive ricikan. This is an awesome collection of the variance of the form over a number of centuries. Thanks so much for continuing to show them.

Kulino · 27th August 2017, 08:41 PM

Dear all,

Thank you for your kind words. I know that by showing this collection I did something Cees never would have done. Still, it felt the right thing to do for the reasons I mentioned earlier.
If someone has suggestions to make the ideas of Jean happen, I'm willing to talk.

27th August 2017, 12:09 PM	#1
Kulino Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 84	seperate shrine boxes Dear all, The next couple of posts will be of sajen which came in special boxes, sometimes linened with velvet or other fabrics, with a headrest and accompanied by special stone, dried flowers, padi, etc. There is even one with a thank you letter supposedly signed by PB XII. Pity I can't show the scented oils... Attached Images

27th August 2017, 01:48 PM	#2
Kulino Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 84	last group Dear all, This concludes the posting of this collection. My dear friend who collected these keris over the time of his life was a very private person. I'm sure he would have hated it that I would mention his name. Nevertheless I don't see any other way to give him the credits he so deserves publicly. Cees Hendriks, thank you for your friendship, for entrusting me with this legacy and for so many things more. I hope you will honour his memory by using this database in a good way. For generating knowledge, understanding and preserving this wonderful cultural heritage within its context. If you have questions or special requests concerning this collection, I will try to accommodate. Kulino Attached Images

27th August 2017, 08:41 PM	#7
Kulino Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 84	Thank you Dear all, Thank you for your kind words. I know that by showing this collection I did something Cees never would have done. Still, it felt the right thing to do for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If someone has suggestions to make the ideas of Jean happen, I'm willing to talk.

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27th August 2017, 01:53 PM	#3
Kulino Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 84	One already posted To conclude this posting of pictures of sajen, I'll add the one which was which I posted earlier. Attached Images

27th August 2017, 03:41 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,165	Hello Kulino, thank you very much for continue this thread and for sharing this magnificent collection with us, also the in the other forum. Cees Hendriks has put a great collection together, may your friend rest in peace! Best regards, Detlef

27th August 2017, 05:14 PM	#5
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I second Sajen's comment, what a fantastic collection, my congratulations and also to your late friend Cees Hendriks! It deserves to be shown in an exhibition or at least a catalogue or book for the benefit of all the collectors! Regards Jean

27th August 2017, 07:41 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I must concur with my fellows here. For me these are always great to see even if it is difficult to come up with any solid information about them. This is obviously an old form that i would image probably predates the Mojopahit era that they were once named for. It does seem that they continued to create these little talismanic blades over many centuries without much change so it is indeed difficult to place them into any particular time period with much accuracy. Certainly i believe the in post #32 with the separate gonjo and greneng is a fairly recent example and may or may not have been created solely as an "art" piece. However, if i am not mistaken, even keris sajen that are more recent (created within the last 200 years) may well have been made for genuine talismanic purposes so i don't necessarily discount these newer examples as reproductions or copies, just a continuance of an old tradition. Certainly 18th and 19th century examples of keris sajen were not being made for collector consumption. On dating these beyond aspects of wear and condition it seems likely that the simpler examples are more likely older. I think the earliest examples tend to be pamor-less, small and very basic. Later examples began to add pamor and sometimes more extensive ricikan. This is an awesome collection of the variance of the form over a number of centuries. Thanks so much for continuing to show them.