Destroying artwork

Sylektis · 15th May 2016, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard G

A couple of points:-

Bonham's should be ashamed of themselves for having anything to do with it.

I wonder where the ivory is now?

And do you know, you can still import ivory into the USA providing you have shot the elephant yourself!

My friend Eutyxis showed me this:
https://www.antiquestradegazette.com...ntiques-in-us/

Sajen · 15th May 2016, 02:00 PM

Horrible!!!

Norman McCormick · 15th May 2016, 02:32 PM

Straightforward Common Sense and Political Correctness appear to be as mutually exclusive in the U.S.A. as they are here in Europe.
Regards,
Norman.

corrado26 · 15th May 2016, 02:42 PM

these pictures demonstrate urgently the grandiose stupiditiy of men at its best!!
corrado26

ariel · 15th May 2016, 04:41 PM

What can we do with our own ivory-, walrus- and rhino - handled swords and daggers?
Is it safe to buy such items from foreign countries to be shipped here?
What about shipping outside the U.S. ? Within the US?

These stories open a huge can of poisonous worms for antique dealers and weapon collectors.

Rick · 15th May 2016, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

What can we do with our own ivory-, walrus- and rhino - handled swords and daggers?
Is it safe to buy such items from foreign countries to be shipped here?
What about shipping outside the U.S. ? Within the US?

These stories open a huge can of poisonous worms for antique dealers and weapon collectors.

And you probably never dreamed that your own country could or would mark you as a criminal.......neither did I.

Oh well off to the Fun store for more ammo for the AR.

Tim Simmons · 15th May 2016, 05:05 PM

It is truly ghastly to see such vandalism even if done with good intention. Destroying ivory to kill the market, prestige concept of the material is probably only happening in " western " countries. Where I think there is little demand for new ivory. This is hitting the wrong people. However I can understand the the no if,s and buts view.

kronckew · 15th May 2016, 06:06 PM

political correctness at it's work again.

i lost a few old ivory netsuke i bought in japan a couple decades back. US customs just took them.

this thread's destruction is like defacing the mona lisa to avoid offending someone.

estcrh · 16th May 2016, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

What can we do with our own ivory-, walrus- and rhino - handled swords and daggers?
Is it safe to buy such items from foreign countries to be shipped here?
What about shipping outside the U.S. ? Within the US?

These stories open a huge can of poisonous worms for antique dealers and weapon collectors.

Ariel, I have personally passed on buying these items only recently. Luckily I only have a few items with ivory, and remember that ivory can come from several sources. There will certainly be a black market for antique weapons with ivory hilts, inlay etc. If you can not openly and accurately describe the hilt material and inlay on your weapons how do you sell the without worrying about the buyer coming back on you someday if they eventually have a problem.

Hopefully some very rich and powerful collector has to deal with this problem, that may be the only way we will ever get any help.

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,277	political correctness at it's work again. i lost a few old ivory netsuke i bought in japan a couple decades back. US customs just took them. this thread's destruction is like defacing the mona lisa to avoid offending someone. Last edited by kronckew; 16th May 2016 at 11:58 AM.

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,556	Horrible!!!

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Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,651	Straightforward Common Sense and Political Correctness appear to be as mutually exclusive in the U.S.A. as they are here in Europe. Regards, Norman.

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corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,260	these pictures demonstrate urgently the grandiose stupiditiy of men at its best!! corrado26

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	What can we do with our own ivory-, walrus- and rhino - handled swords and daggers? Is it safe to buy such items from foreign countries to be shipped here? What about shipping outside the U.S. ? Within the US? These stories open a huge can of poisonous worms for antique dealers and weapon collectors.

15th May 2016, 05:05 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,955	It is truly ghastly to see such vandalism even if done with good intention. Destroying ivory to kill the market, prestige concept of the material is probably only happening in " western " countries. Where I think there is little demand for new ivory. This is hitting the wrong people. However I can understand the the no if,s and buts view.