Any Amazon collectors?

Tim Simmons · 29th July 2015, 09:05 PM

Nice collection.

VANDOO · 30th July 2015, 01:08 AM

A NICE COLLECTION INDEED.

QUITE A NICE SELECTION OF ARROWS FROM FISHING TO STUN TYPES. IN YOUR LAST PICTURE THERE ARE 3 CLUBS ON THE WALL DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE MIDDLE ONE WITH THE NOTCHES? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE OF IT TO COMPARE WITH SOMETHING I HAVE THAT LOOKS SIMILAR. THANKS BARRY

Tim Simmons · 2nd August 2015, 07:06 PM

Finally here. Very interesting sword club. Too me the timber looks rather exotic. I think I might have been very lucky that it past customs {wood with a Brazil postage mark}. Dense heavy hard wood with an unusual colour. Now the Amazon collection is growing the regional styles are starting to be apparent. The club is 93cm long and the main part is 4cm x 3cm with a two hand grip. It is rather like a heavy bokken without a curve. Not old but clearly not new either, the distal end has been it contact with the ground through use as a walking staff. As this type of material is not "antique" and little understood while market demand is low it is not expensive. I have to ask as the Krikati is some low thousands of soles, who else has one? and how common? The geometric form is curious and the precision around the pommel is nice. It has the look of a constructivist sculpture with pure form and geometric clean lines.

fireiceviper · 2nd August 2015, 08:55 PM

@ Tim Simmons

Love The club, really has that nice heavy look to it, probably super rare (but we wont know that in lets say 50 years...) does the wood almost feel like plastic because of its density?

@ VANDOO

It is actually the one from a few posts back! but I've made some better pictures...

Edit: the pictures are in the wrong order......

Tim Simmons · 22nd August 2015, 03:35 PM

My latest, Kayabi. It is new-ish made for festival. They can be bigger but very hard to find. The pattern is cotton and cane. The cotton is painted with a resin so it is made hard and red coloured. Even in Indian lands fights most happen just as in our world. Shown with some Melanesian clubs of the same size.

VANDOO · 22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM

A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM.

ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE.
FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL.

#1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE.

#3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG

fireiceviper · 27th August 2015, 02:21 AM

@Tim Simmons

Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice!

@Vandoo

Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here).

The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!

2nd August 2015, 08:55 PM	#4
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	@ Tim Simmons Love The club, really has that nice heavy look to it, probably super rare (but we wont know that in lets say 50 years...) does the wood almost feel like plastic because of its density? @ VANDOO It is actually the one from a few posts back! but I've made some better pictures... Edit: the pictures are in the wrong order...... Attached Images

22nd August 2015, 03:35 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	My latest, Kayabi. It is new-ish made for festival. They can be bigger but very hard to find. The pattern is cotton and cane. The cotton is painted with a resin so it is made hard and red coloured. Even in Indian lands fights most happen just as in our world. Shown with some Melanesian clubs of the same size. Attached Images

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29th July 2015, 09:05 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	Nice collection.

30th July 2015, 01:08 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A NICE COLLECTION INDEED. QUITE A NICE SELECTION OF ARROWS FROM FISHING TO STUN TYPES. IN YOUR LAST PICTURE THERE ARE 3 CLUBS ON THE WALL DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE MIDDLE ONE WITH THE NOTCHES? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE OF IT TO COMPARE WITH SOMETHING I HAVE THAT LOOKS SIMILAR. THANKS BARRY

2nd August 2015, 07:06 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,860	Finally here. Very interesting sword club. Too me the timber looks rather exotic. I think I might have been very lucky that it past customs {wood with a Brazil postage mark}. Dense heavy hard wood with an unusual colour. Now the Amazon collection is growing the regional styles are starting to be apparent. The club is 93cm long and the main part is 4cm x 3cm with a two hand grip. It is rather like a heavy bokken without a curve. Not old but clearly not new either, the distal end has been it contact with the ground through use as a walking staff. As this type of material is not "antique" and little understood while market demand is low it is not expensive. I have to ask as the Krikati is some low thousands of soles, who else has one? and how common? The geometric form is curious and the precision around the pommel is nice. It has the look of a constructivist sculpture with pure form and geometric clean lines. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 2nd August 2015 at 07:38 PM.

22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM. ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE. FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL. #1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE. #3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 22nd August 2015 at 09:45 PM.

27th August 2015, 02:21 AM	#7
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	@Tim Simmons Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice! @Vandoo Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here). The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!