Eastern Arms in Armeria Reale di Torino

Mark · 18th August 2005, 05:01 PM

Brian, could you be convinced to part with a copy of that catalogue? I'll translate it for you if you do ...

It is great because it not only describes the sword, but gives the provenance and historical context as well. Excellent material.

B.I · 18th August 2005, 05:20 PM

hi mark,
i spent the day with giorgio, and found him a fascinating character. he was a full time researcher, and once he undertook a 'subject' he just ploughed into it. i dont know how far his knowledge is on eastern arms, as his publications cover a much wider scope. he does have a pssion for it though, and i know he would have at least used every available resource at torino.
i have a 'hard copy' of his book, but he kindly gave me the text (an early version, pre-edited) so i can attempt to translate chunks.
i would rather not put it directly on-line, as he was a little embarrassed about showing his corrected mistakes, but i will happily send it to you if you pm me your email address, and bear with me whilst i try and find it on my system. you can translate the necessary bits and do with as you wish. there is one item on there i would love translated for my own study, at some point in my lifetime if you have time. no hurry though.

Battara · 19th August 2005, 05:00 AM

Thanks BI and athe rest for the nice pics. Helps in my research and understanding when I do restorations for people.

One the other side of the coin, it depresses me a little when I see these and know that to acquire similar quality toys, no one takes my $5 offer seriously.

Nathaniel · 24th August 2014, 05:08 PM

Hello all,

Just wanted to open and old thread. I'm wondering which catalog it is that B.I was mentioning? these images came from. I know it was in the draft versions when he first posted. Does anyone have a copy?

When I was searching I found these two books:

Nathaniel · 24th August 2014, 05:11 PM

and this one...published in 2005

Nathaniel · 25th August 2014, 03:28 AM

I was looking at this thread again and there was allot of attention to the European influenced Thai saber with the knuckle bow (Krabi), but I thought the ruby studded daab was equality interesting...

Nathaniel · 25th August 2014, 03:33 AM

It was interesting I was looking through some old photos and noticed that the two standing fellows on each side have dha with similar scabbards...???? Hard to say since we cannot see the detail...any thoughts? I'm curious what the Armeria Reale Di Torino catalog says about the providence of this sword.

This photo is of some Shan Sawbwa at the Dehli Durbar of 1909:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sao_Kawng_Kiao_Intaleng

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Durbar

Gavin Nugent · 25th August 2014, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathaniel

Hello all,

Just wanted to open and old thread. I'm wondering which catalog it is that B.I was mentioning? these images came from. I know it was in the draft versions when he first posted. Does anyone have a copy?

When I was searching I found these two books:

I have a copy Nathaniel, it is the first title you picture.

24th August 2014, 05:08 PM	#4
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Hello all, Just wanted to open and old thread. I'm wondering which catalog it is that B.I was mentioning? these images came from. I know it was in the draft versions when he first posted. Does anyone have a copy? When I was searching I found these two books: Attached Images Last edited by Robert; 25th August 2014 at 04:32 AM.

24th August 2014, 05:11 PM	#5
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	and this one...published in 2005 Attached Images Last edited by Robert; 25th August 2014 at 04:37 AM. Reason: Read the rules on posting links to items that are for sale.

25th August 2014, 03:28 AM	#6
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	I was looking at this thread again and there was allot of attention to the European influenced Thai saber with the knuckle bow (Krabi), but I thought the ruby studded daab was equality interesting... Attached Images

25th August 2014, 03:33 AM	#7
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	It was interesting I was looking through some old photos and noticed that the two standing fellows on each side have dha with similar scabbards...???? Hard to say since we cannot see the detail...any thoughts? I'm curious what the Armeria Reale Di Torino catalog says about the providence of this sword. This photo is of some Shan Sawbwa at the Dehli Durbar of 1909: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sao_Kawng_Kiao_Intaleng http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Durbar Attached Images Last edited by Nathaniel; 25th August 2014 at 04:51 AM.

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18th August 2005, 05:01 PM	#1
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	Brian, could you be convinced to part with a copy of that catalogue? I'll translate it for you if you do ... It is great because it not only describes the sword, but gives the provenance and historical context as well. Excellent material.

18th August 2005, 05:20 PM	#2
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	hi mark, i spent the day with giorgio, and found him a fascinating character. he was a full time researcher, and once he undertook a 'subject' he just ploughed into it. i dont know how far his knowledge is on eastern arms, as his publications cover a much wider scope. he does have a pssion for it though, and i know he would have at least used every available resource at torino. i have a 'hard copy' of his book, but he kindly gave me the text (an early version, pre-edited) so i can attempt to translate chunks. i would rather not put it directly on-line, as he was a little embarrassed about showing his corrected mistakes, but i will happily send it to you if you pm me your email address, and bear with me whilst i try and find it on my system. you can translate the necessary bits and do with as you wish. there is one item on there i would love translated for my own study, at some point in my lifetime if you have time. no hurry though.

19th August 2005, 05:00 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Thanks BI and athe rest for the nice pics. Helps in my research and understanding when I do restorations for people. One the other side of the coin, it depresses me a little when I see these and know that to acquire similar quality toys, no one takes my $5 offer seriously.