Tulwar Armory stamp?

RonHen · 19th October 2011, 07:17 AM

Thank you Jim, hopefully one day I can contribute to this forum like you do! I will post more info when I figure out more about the cartouche. I would also like to re-etch one side of the blade. as it is very faint compared to the other. Any suggestions for acid and process?

Ron

Jim McDougall · 19th October 2011, 02:55 PM

You're very welcome RonHen! Very much my pleasure, and as for contributing..you already have!! Giving us the opportunity to see this great example. I look forward to hearing more on the cartouche. As I have mentioned, information on most markings are found 'passim' in most of the literature on arms, but seldom addressed specifically. I know that over the years Jens has worked at categorizing some of the Indian markings, but it is very much work in progress that a number of us have hoped to bring closer to a tangible resource along with him. Perhaps your findings will bring us a notch closer on this one!!
Thank you for joining us, and on the etching question I think Gav will have good suggestions. Also it would be a great addition to Ibrahiim's restoration library thread seen here on this page as well. I think Alan Maisey has said it best, "..do as little possible, but as much as necessary".

All the very best,
Jim

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 19th October 2011, 04:28 PM

Salaams RonHen, Lovely wootz, great sword stamp, and nice blade marks hogs backs or Gurda.. Its all there and you may want to consider lightly oiling the blade or preservation wax rather than etching. Regards and welcome.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Lew · 19th October 2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams RonHen, Lovely wootz, great sword stamp, and nice blade marks hogs backs or Gurda.. Its all there and you may want to consider lightly oiling the blade or preservation wax rather than etching. Regards and welcome.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Ibrahiim

I think the blade is pattern welded

Lew

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 20th October 2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew

Ibrahiim

I think the blade is pattern welded

Lew

Salaams Lew, Only today was I appraised of the differnce on this forum as ~

By Gt Obach ..
its actually simple...

1) Wootz damascus is a crucible steel... some ingredients are melted in a clay crucible till liquid then cooled slowly in the vessel. The goal is to produce a ultra high carbon, dendritic steel. The ingot is then forged out into a blade using a low forge temp inorder to grow the carbide pattern. The blade is then etched and you see the waterings

2) Forgewelded damascus- several pieces of bloom steel are stacked up in a billet... (resembling a sandwich) the billet is then fluxed and forgewelded together and drawn out .... cut... restacked and repeat
- pattern is then manipulated and designs are made
- eg...like those Viking sword with twistcore

Excellent ! Regards Ibrahiim

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19th October 2011, 07:17 AM	#1
RonHen Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 12	Thank you Jim, hopefully one day I can contribute to this forum like you do! I will post more info when I figure out more about the cartouche. I would also like to re-etch one side of the blade. as it is very faint compared to the other. Any suggestions for acid and process? Ron

19th October 2011, 02:55 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,467	You're very welcome RonHen! Very much my pleasure, and as for contributing..you already have!! Giving us the opportunity to see this great example. I look forward to hearing more on the cartouche. As I have mentioned, information on most markings are found 'passim' in most of the literature on arms, but seldom addressed specifically. I know that over the years Jens has worked at categorizing some of the Indian markings, but it is very much work in progress that a number of us have hoped to bring closer to a tangible resource along with him. Perhaps your findings will bring us a notch closer on this one!! Thank you for joining us, and on the etching question I think Gav will have good suggestions. Also it would be a great addition to Ibrahiim's restoration library thread seen here on this page as well. I think Alan Maisey has said it best, "..do as little possible, but as much as necessary". All the very best, Jim

19th October 2011, 04:28 PM	#3
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams RonHen, Lovely wootz, great sword stamp, and nice blade marks hogs backs or Gurda.. Its all there and you may want to consider lightly oiling the blade or preservation wax rather than etching. Regards and welcome. Ibrahiim al Balooshi.