Translation - cartouche on Sher Bacha

longfellow · 26th April 2010, 07:28 PM

Hi Dom,

A gunsmith mark - that would be nice!

Do you know of any reference - books, papers, etc. - that might have records of weapons makers of the Ottomans?

I was quite surprised when I first started closely examining the piece and found that it is in very good working condition - trigger and all. And, the inlay seems to be gold. The barrel is ferrous and, without taking down any of the patina, it looks like it may well be watered.

Best regards,

David

Dom · 27th April 2010, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by longfellow

Hi Dom,

A gunsmith mark - that would be nice!

Do you know of any reference - books, papers, etc. - that might have records of weapons makers of the Ottomans?

e.i.
http://books.google.com/books?id=epa...page&q&f=false
use "google"

Quote:

Originally Posted by longfellow

I was quite surprised when I first started closely examining the piece and found that it is in very good working condition - trigger and all. And, the inlay seems to be gold. The barrel is ferrous and, without taking down any of the patina, it looks like it may well be watered.

David, be cautious your gun is from the 18th century (may be early 18th)
treat him with respect, don't be too much tough

the trigger is "fragile" specially the springs

à +

Dom

longfellow · 27th April 2010, 03:20 AM

Dom, thanks for the kick in the pants - and the point in the right direction - to check google. I'll have to see about picking that up.

Yes, something like this piece needs care and consideration - it was here long before me and will survive me (I hope) by at least as much longer. At least, temporarily, it has a safe environment. Needed to be cleaned up though and and checked to find condition and quality of function. Now it can be carefully stored. It even has it's original iron ram rod.

longfellow · 4th May 2010, 12:14 AM

Hello Dom,

I just got a report on this piece:

"This gun is a Turkish gun which was produced in Egypt at Mohammad Ali Military Factory in Cairo, the specific date of production is not known but it is estimated between the years 1820 - 1849. This gun was made specialy for "Omar Pasha" who is one of famous Ottoman Generals.

His name is written on the gun and it was give to him when he was at the rank of Amiralay = L. General rank today."

Looking up and reading the history and various accounts of Omar Pasha Latas is quite interesting, to say the least.

Thanks for your help!

David

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26th April 2010, 07:28 PM	#1
longfellow Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 37	Hi Dom, A gunsmith mark - that would be nice! Do you know of any reference - books, papers, etc. - that might have records of weapons makers of the Ottomans? I was quite surprised when I first started closely examining the piece and found that it is in very good working condition - trigger and all. And, the inlay seems to be gold. The barrel is ferrous and, without taking down any of the patina, it looks like it may well be watered. Best regards, David

27th April 2010, 03:20 AM	#3
longfellow Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 37	Dom, thanks for the kick in the pants - and the point in the right direction - to check google. I'll have to see about picking that up. Yes, something like this piece needs care and consideration - it was here long before me and will survive me (I hope) by at least as much longer. At least, temporarily, it has a safe environment. Needed to be cleaned up though and and checked to find condition and quality of function. Now it can be carefully stored. It even has it's original iron ram rod.

4th May 2010, 12:14 AM	#4
longfellow Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 37	Hello Dom, I just got a report on this piece: "This gun is a Turkish gun which was produced in Egypt at Mohammad Ali Military Factory in Cairo, the specific date of production is not known but it is estimated between the years 1820 - 1849. This gun was made specialy for "Omar Pasha" who is one of famous Ottoman Generals. His name is written on the gun and it was give to him when he was at the rank of Amiralay = L. General rank today." Looking up and reading the history and various accounts of Omar Pasha Latas is quite interesting, to say the least. Thanks for your help! David