Is this a Sadap ?

Miguel · 12th July 2016, 08:09 PM

Hello Everyone, I know this question has been asked before as I have been searching through previous threads on the subject. I have had this weapon which I always thought was a Parang Latok used by the Land Dayaks of Malaya for a long time but from research I now think but am not completely sure that it may be a Parang Sadap used by the Muslim Melanau people of Malaya and would be grateful for confirmation or otherwise of this from the more knowledgeable members together with any comments and age if possible from the photos.
Thanking you in anticipation
Miguel

mariusgmioc · 12th July 2016, 10:33 PM

SADAP
Kalimantan, Melanau
A variant of the parang latok where the blade's shoulder is octagonal in cross-section

(no illustration given)

That's the definition from "Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago" by Albert G. van Zonneveld.

So, I guess the answer is yes, this is a Sadap.

ariel · 13th July 2016, 01:36 AM

"Sadat is Parang latok , but with an octagonal shoulder...."
Reminds me of Kama Sutra, where Position #54 is in fact Position #53, just with your fingers crossed:-)

mariusgmioc · 13th July 2016, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

"Sadat is Parang latok , but with an octagonal shoulder...."
Reminds me of Kama Sutra, where Position #54 is in fact Position #53, just with your fingers crossed:-)

Brilliant!

kronckew · 13th July 2016, 11:22 AM

sadly, every one i've seen is bent at the blade/bolster junction.

feel free to send it to me, and i'll contemplate what to do about that.

(nice one!)

CharlesS · 13th July 2016, 11:53 AM

Here is another thread dedicated to the sadap.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sadap

mariusgmioc · 13th July 2016, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

sadly, every one i've seen is bent at the blade/bolster junction.

feel free to send it to me, and i'll contemplate what to do about that.

(nice one!)

Yeah, I noticed that too.

I don't understand why doesn't he have it straightened up?!

kai · 13th July 2016, 02:05 AM

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yes, this is a Sadap.

An a really nice example at that!

Congrats - please keep me posted if you decide to let it go, Miguel!

Regards,
Kai

Maurice · 13th July 2016, 07:16 AM

Hi Miguel,

Because the "shoulder" is octagonal in section, indeed it is called a sadap, which were in use by the Milanau tribes.
A rather rare to find sword.

Maurice

12th July 2016, 08:09 PM	#1
Miguel Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 584	Is this a Sadap ? Hello Everyone, I know this question has been asked before as I have been searching through previous threads on the subject. I have had this weapon which I always thought was a Parang Latok used by the Land Dayaks of Malaya for a long time but from research I now think but am not completely sure that it may be a Parang Sadap used by the Muslim Melanau people of Malaya and would be grateful for confirmation or otherwise of this from the more knowledgeable members together with any comments and age if possible from the photos. Thanking you in anticipation Miguel Attached Images

12th July 2016, 10:33 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	SADAP Kalimantan, Melanau A variant of the parang latok where the blade's shoulder is octagonal in cross-section (no illustration given) That's the definition from "Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago" by Albert G. van Zonneveld. So, I guess the answer is yes, this is a Sadap.

13th July 2016, 01:36 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	"Sadat is Parang latok , but with an octagonal shoulder...." Reminds me of Kama Sutra, where Position #54 is in fact Position #53, just with your fingers crossed:-)

13th July 2016, 11:22 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	sadly, every one i've seen is bent at the blade/bolster junction. feel free to send it to me, and i'll contemplate what to do about that. (nice one!)

13th July 2016, 11:53 AM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Here is another thread dedicated to the sadap. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sadap

13th July 2016, 07:16 AM	#9
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Hi Miguel, Because the "shoulder" is octagonal in section, indeed it is called a sadap, which were in use by the Milanau tribes. A rather rare to find sword. Maurice