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Old 10th August 2010, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default Help Identifying This Islamic Dagger's Origin...and translation

To my eye this dagger exhibits clear Arab and Indo-Persian influences. I am wondering if it may be from the western shores of India. The wootz is of good quality and high contrast. The silver work is very detailed and nicely crafted in typical Islamic floral motifs.

Can anyone translate the inscription to one side of the scabbard???

Thanks in advance for any help and comments.
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Old 10th August 2010, 04:59 PM   #2
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What a wonderful dagger! I believe I have seen similar daggers on Oriental Arms, where the person who perhaps knows the most about them, identifies this type as coming from Afghanistan. It would be interesting to see if the inscription is in a language that may corroborate this origin.
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Can anyone translate the inscription to one side of the scabbard???
hi Charles
someone reading Farsi, or ?
but for sure, it's not in Arabic language

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Thanks guys.

I may be totally wrong, but this one just doesn't seem to have an Afghan "flavor" to me.
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I am not to sure if Afghans carried jambiya? This seems more Persian to me.
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This seems more Persian to me.
you might be correct,
Farci is the language of Persians

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Old 10th August 2010, 08:37 PM   #7
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The blade style certainly seems Persian, but the scabbard seems Arab....that's why I am thinking Indo-Arab...northern, or west coast India.
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