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CharlesS 10th August 2010 01:59 PM

Help Identifying This Islamic Dagger's Origin...and translation
 
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To my eye this dagger exhibits clear Arab and Indo-Persian influences. I am wondering if it may be from the western shores of India. The wootz is of good quality and high contrast. The silver work is very detailed and nicely crafted in typical Islamic floral motifs.

Can anyone translate the inscription to one side of the scabbard???

Thanks in advance for any help and comments.

TVV 10th August 2010 04:59 PM

What a wonderful dagger! I believe I have seen similar daggers on Oriental Arms, where the person who perhaps knows the most about them, identifies this type as coming from Afghanistan. It would be interesting to see if the inscription is in a language that may corroborate this origin.
Regards,
Teodor

Dom 10th August 2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS
Can anyone translate the inscription to one side of the scabbard???
hi Charles
someone reading Farsi, or ?
but for sure, it's not in Arabic language :shrug:

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Dom

CharlesS 10th August 2010 06:01 PM

Thanks guys.

I may be totally wrong, but this one just doesn't seem to have an Afghan "flavor" to me.

Lew 10th August 2010 06:23 PM

Charles

I am not to sure if Afghans carried jambiya? This seems more Persian to me.

Dom 10th August 2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew
This seems more Persian to me.
you might be correct,
Farci is the language of Persians :p

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Dom

CharlesS 10th August 2010 08:37 PM

The blade style certainly seems Persian, but the scabbard seems Arab....that's why I am thinking Indo-Arab...northern, or west coast India.

kahnjar1 11th August 2010 06:47 AM

........what ever it is, it's a VERY nice piece.
Stu

Tim Simmons 11th August 2010 07:46 AM

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Agian I do not know is this helps or not but having established the script is Farsi and Persian this might help with a more pin point origin. Look at the work especially on the handle and then look at this traditional rug design form from a region and town of Veramin. Some similarity?

Picture from "The Atlas Of Rugs and Carpets" and one I have.

http://www.bukhara-carpets.com/orie...rpet-D1251.html

http://www.jozan.net/distrikter/veramin.asp

PS also spelled Varamin.


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