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4th October 2008, 10:54 PM
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keris for comments / sumatra ? / bugis ?
Please give some comments on this keris ?
It was offered as Bugis, but probably more Sumatra or.... Ps. toli toli I made myself because that part has a restauration with woodfiller 
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5th October 2008, 08:34 AM
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hello de keris is not a bugi but i think javanees
regards semar |
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5th October 2008, 04:54 PM
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I agree that the blade is not Bugis, though it may well be Sumatran. If i am not mistaken many Sumatran keris followed certain Javanese pakem for their blades when under the influence of the Javanese kratons.
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5th October 2008, 08:52 PM
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Is the seluut malay?
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6th October 2008, 06:39 AM
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the blade looks like Javanese / Javanese influence. The selut / pendokok is peninsular IMO.
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7th October 2008, 12:48 AM
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This has a toli-toli loop. Does this mean that this piece is ceremonial?
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7th October 2008, 04:16 AM
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7th October 2008, 04:35 AM
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IMHO, the blade is Sumbawa/Bima not Sumatra, Lamba Lima (Luk 5). Previous owner might be a Buginese or Macassare. Both Gowa and Sumbawa/Bima kingdoms have family relations. The bottom part of the sarung/sepatu shows authentic Buginese handcraft influenced. It is common to see a blade like this in Sulawesi. It is NOT called TOLI TOLI the correct name is PASSIOSUMANGE means 'Ring of Spirit'. There is a belief that the wearer of the Tappi (Keris) with PASSIOSUMANGE attached will have a greater sense of what is happening in his area/home land. It is also a symbol of high status.
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8th October 2008, 08:27 PM
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11th October 2008, 11:23 AM
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Thanks all for your expertise !!!
My first sumbawa keris. cool 
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