Yes, I was referring to Jean's hilt.
I have not read J&P. It is supposedly reliable, however, this hilt form shown at the beginning of this thread is definitely a Central Jawa form, very probably Surakarta.
It appears somewhat distorted on my screen and very miniscule variations in hilt forms of this general type can indicate different things.
In my experience this is most definitely a Central Javanese form, but I have no idea at all where it might have been made.
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