| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  13th November 2007, 02:52 PM | 
	
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				 And one for you Artillery fans 
 The two lantaka below were just beautiful. As I know next to nothing about them I won't say anymore. Make a wonderful living room centerpiece I'm thinking :D
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  13th November 2007, 02:48 PM | 
	
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				 One nice Kris 
 As I said there was one nice find, this Kris below. After a little scraping we determined that it did have a separate ganga. Why the previous owner had the fretting wrapped in silver I'll never know,...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  13th November 2007, 02:35 PM | 
	
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				 Cotobatu "Antiques" Shop Philippines 
 Hello all,
 As I spend the next 8 months here in beautiful Central Mindanao, I figured it was time to get my butt back in gear and start posting. After a short conversation about my interest in...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  13th November 2007, 02:05 PM | 
	
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				 Big ones here in Cotobatu too 
 Steve, saw these the day after your post and while I've never seen any this big before they are certainly huge if not near as old as yours (or as nice). None had a decent blade and all looked made...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  22nd August 2007, 04:00 AM | 
	
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				 Batara,  
  
I'll look through my pictures when I... 
 Batara,
 
 I'll look through my pictures when I get home. I know I have a barong, recently redressed in Jolo that has similar okir, but didn't see any of that type of filigree available on my last...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th August 2007, 12:43 PM | 
	
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				 Filigree in Sulu? 
 Battara, I'm confused (which is not something new) :confused:
 I had thought that all that filigree work came out of Central Mindanao.
 All the previous kris that I've seen provenanced to Sulu had...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th August 2007, 12:16 PM | 
	
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				 Traditional cleaning 
 While in Jolo, Sulu I was shown an old traditional way to clean the blades.
 We hollowed out a large section of bamboo (leaving the bottom section) and filled it with what I now know to be coconut...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  18th May 2007, 03:31 AM | 
	
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				 Saw several of about the same profile, but... 
 Saw several of about the same profile, but without the panabas flare at the toe in Mindanoa. All were used as coconut knifes - in fact that what they called them. Ever try and cut one and you'll know...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  20th May 2006, 04:39 AM | 
	
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th May 2006, 08:10 AM | 
	
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				 Language vs sword style 
 Ariel, I think we need to distinguish between the roots of language and the roots of a certain sword style. Language will migrate faster than artifacts and while there is always trade I don't think...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th May 2006, 07:59 AM | 
	
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				 Culturally correct repairs 
 I'll throw my own two centavos in here. I completely agree with Kris and BluErf. These blades are continually being repaired and redressed and as long as it is done in the traditional style (or...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th May 2006, 07:31 AM | 
	
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				 OB's sword 
 Sam and Jack, please post the photo's of OB's kris (beautiful lamination lines). They're in the My pictures folder.
 Dan
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  19th May 2006, 07:29 AM | 
	
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				 Seperate gangya 
 Back home and up on line again. While I know that the rule seems to be seperate gangya = pre 1930, however I got the sense from most of those that I talked to in Sulu reference these that the...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  15th May 2006, 05:43 AM | 
	
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				 OOps 
 Sorry was using my buddy's log-in on that last post.
 
 Dan
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  14th May 2006, 12:10 PM | 
	
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				 And the Second 
 Here's the second. Incredible amount of grain in this one.
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  14th May 2006, 12:06 PM | 
	
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				 Swords of Jolo Sulu 3 
 Guys, I'm posting this for another new enthusiast here who has picked up these two blades. Neither has a seperate gangya. The carving on the broken scabbard is of the type that the few locals who...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  14th May 2006, 11:30 AM | 
	
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				 Sawasdee 
 Bancha, Yin dee don rap. Love the swords and even more than that the way you classified them by period. Would love to talk to you reference this. Will be in Thailand 3-23 July would like to meet and...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  12th May 2006, 01:51 PM | 
	
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				 Seperated gangya 
 Yes Spunjer it is definately a seperated two piece construction and the blade itself had many small seperations along the nickel iron lines, one especially large at the tip. I had thought that this...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  12th May 2006, 06:20 AM | 
	
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				 Better Pics 
 Better pics as requested.
 
 Spunjer, glad to hear from you again and yes is it a swollen edge (that's why I pid so much for it).
 
 Mabagani, always  good to hear from you, but the Bud Dajo...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  11th May 2006, 07:20 PM | 
	
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				 Siku 
 Morningstar, thanks I've asked but none of the Tausug here could give the term (just called them waves) been trying to talk to a blacksmith here, but have missed him everytime. So much of their...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  11th May 2006, 07:12 PM | 
	
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				 More Later 
 Rick, More pics later if the sun cooperates. 13 or 15 luuk? must've missed a lesson there on how to count em (thought you just counted the outside curves). We have about 7 kalis and two barongs worth...
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	| Forum: Ethnographic Weapons  11th May 2006, 06:15 PM | 
	
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				 Swords of Jolo, Sulu 1 
 Ma Uno Uno Na Kaw! My friends
 My apologies for my extended absence from the forum. But be assured that I have not been idle in the realm of learning and sharing what you all have taught me about...
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