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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 22nd December 2025, 10:51 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Good to see that you have another enquiry Jaya, &...

Good to see that you have another enquiry Jaya, & that you are maintaining your interest.

That engraving of a crown is simply an engraving of a crown, alone, & with no other symbols it really has...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 18th December 2025, 12:08 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 3,558
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Not to my knowledge, Martin.

Not to my knowledge, Martin.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 16th December 2025, 02:30 AM
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Views: 3,558
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I guess the answer to that question is:-...

I guess the answer to that question is:- "significant to whom?"

At the present time, & for a long time in the immediate past it seems that the Surakarta style of wrongko, both gayam & ladrang, has...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th December 2025, 08:03 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 3,558
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Martin, the embossing could have been done in...

Yes Martin, the embossing could have been done in Jogjakarta, or at least by somebody working according to the principles of the Jogjakarta school, but the motifs & overall presentation is indicative...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th December 2025, 11:34 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Gustav, that would be about right --- I'm...

Yes Gustav, that would be about right --- I'm quite a bit more than 80 years of age, additionally, I'm not really all that interested in the dated history of creating patterns in ferric material, but...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th December 2025, 09:49 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Not at all an elaborate response Gustav, what I...

Not at all an elaborate response Gustav, what I have written, I consider to be very simple & very basic. It took me a long time to write it, because my initial response was far too long and far too...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th December 2025, 06:04 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thanks for explaining your reasons for focussing...

Thanks for explaining your reasons for focussing on the pamor Gustav.

When we use twisted bar techniques to produce intentional patterns there is a lot more than just the forge work to consider....
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th December 2025, 09:45 PM
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Views: 3,558
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Alan is unable to put a name on this pendok...

Alan is unable to put a name on this pendok motif, overall it looks like a Banyumas pendok, but it is not really out of place matched to this wrongko. It might be silver, might be mamas, no way of...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th December 2025, 07:23 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,148
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Ian, as with Jim & Bob, I am of he opinion that...

Ian, as with Jim & Bob, I am of he opinion that this would be a very worthwhile undertaking, however it is an area that is not of any interest to me at the present time --- I still have an immense...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th December 2025, 09:03 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 4,778
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Ian, yes, this is more or less how I...

Thank you Ian, yes, this is more or less how I understood your post that began this thread, & that is an idea that has made it very difficult for me to come to terms with the concepts involved in the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th December 2025, 11:59 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 4,778
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have understood this thread as one that is...

I have understood this thread as one that is directed at the unintentional artistry of edged weapons, rather than the artistry of edged weapons.

Some edged weapons are intended as expressions of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th December 2025, 10:12 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Gustav, that question cannot be given an answer...

Gustav, that question cannot be given an answer that can be supported with any of the banks of knowledge or belief that form a part of the Central Javanese world of the keris.

In fact, it is not...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th December 2025, 11:47 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
In every keris classification there are...

In every keris classification there are variations from maker to maker & from period to period within the life of the same maker, and over a period of time that covers the entire classification, in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th December 2025, 12:25 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
This is a brief summary taken from Surakarta...

This is a brief summary taken from Surakarta sources of indicators for a keris blade made in Madura:-

coarse iron,

thick pamor, distinct step from iron to contrasting pamor material ( this is...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th December 2025, 09:57 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 10,493
Posted By A. G. Maisey
If I apply the Surakarta tangguh indicators to...

If I apply the Surakarta tangguh indicators to this keris blade, it is unmistakably Madura --- which makes it East Jawa.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th November 2025, 01:50 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,849
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yeah, sure it is possible that it is a dealer's...

Yeah, sure it is possible that it is a dealer's or collectors montage, but this can happen in an indigenous society as well. In Bali it is not at all uncommon to see Javanese blades in Bali dress, &...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th November 2025, 09:38 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,849
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, I tend to disagree that we can leave this...

David, I tend to disagree that we can leave this discussion up in the air.

My knowledge of Bugis society, culture & history is presently very limited, & my way of thinking about the keris is that...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th November 2025, 02:48 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,849
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, you are correct, "whole K&C"does mean...

Yes David, you are correct, "whole K&C"does mean in its entirety, I did not phase that well. I'll try to do better.

"entire" was not the best word for me to use, & my phrasing was...
Forum: European Armoury 28th November 2025, 02:58 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 6,090
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Very true Dr. I grew up with dibble sticks. ...

Very true Dr.
I grew up with dibble sticks.
I made the holes, Dad put in the seeds.

But this thing does look like a tool that could be used to cut turf, either squares out of, or along the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2025, 01:31 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,849
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually, that idea of "Bugis style" is very...

Actually, that idea of "Bugis style" is very probably a bit off track. Monumental evidence indicates that the scabbard used in East Jawa during the Mojopahit era was the same form that we now call a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2025, 01:05 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 6,299
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Pedaringan Kebak is a sub-type of wos wutah, it...

Pedaringan Kebak is a sub-type of wos wutah, it is an individual opinion in respect of whether or not the amount of the core covered by the pamor motif is sufficient for that pamor motif to be named...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th November 2025, 08:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 6,849
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, I have little interest in keris that are...

David, I have little interest in keris that are outside the core keris culture area of Jawa-Bali, however if I apply the way in which keris in these areas were classified by the people who taught me,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th November 2025, 12:40 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,290
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The kembang kacang is broken, so I'm guessing...

The kembang kacang is broken, so I'm guessing that an akut is what is called a kembang kacang in Jawa.

It is a pity that it is not perfect, but something like this in Jawa/Bali is normally given...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 09:57 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 6,299
Posted By A. G. Maisey
That's a good article you've linked to Jaya. ...

That's a good article you've linked to Jaya.

Obviously the author enjoys writing.

In respect of the pamor for this keris, I'd be a bit hesitant in giving it as pedaringan kebak. Pamor PK is a...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th November 2025, 08:42 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 33,496
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes, some keris dress used in Madura is highly...

Yes, some keris dress used in Madura is highly ornamented, my memory is that this ornamentation is not limited to sandang walikat form.

I do not understand the word "jurigan" in this context, can...
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