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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 11:19 AM
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Posted By baganing_balyan
i wish someone can translate this. I know for...

i wish someone can translate this. I know for sure that this is a turkish inscription since I saw the first line on a turkish helmet and on a blade.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 10:57 AM
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Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
I am interested to know how the mindanao muslims...

I am interested to know how the mindanao muslims long ago came up with Ferric Chloride. I did not know there was chemistry already in the Philippines then. I wish we were that scientifically...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd July 2008, 10:46 AM
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Views: 18,001
Posted By baganing_balyan
Mr. Maisey, I know you are an expert of Javanese...

Mr. Maisey, I know you are an expert of Javanese language and culture, but what really made me laugh-- inside though-- is your stubborn insistence that "kinris" appeared in early javanese text.

I...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd July 2008, 10:20 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 18,001
Posted By baganing_balyan
In Malay languages, a root word remains the same...

In Malay languages, a root word remains the same even if you add a prefix, an infix or a sufix. "Iris" should be "kiniris" not "kinris," which has an incomplete root word. It would have been good...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 08:58 AM
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Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
also, study the surface of the blade. If it's...

also, study the surface of the blade. If it's grainier, then it's not older. Sharpening a snaky kris with no distinct design or pamor on both sides also makes the area near the center of the blade...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 08:01 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
can you not see the welding dots just above the...

can you not see the welding dots just above the katik on the second pic?

Now, compare that to the second kris, which I think is old and older.

Now tell me why it's old. Educate me.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 07:22 AM
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Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
old patina is darker and oftentimes greenish. ...

old patina is darker and oftentimes greenish.

I can even see some welding traces.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 07:13 AM
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Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
a maranao datu with a tourist's punyal? No...

a maranao datu with a tourist's punyal? No comment.

I can go on and on with the designs of that maranao kris, but it's a waste of time. I find no academic merit in talking about it.

Even the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 04:55 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
Bill already said it's a Maranao sword. Maranaos...

Bill already said it's a Maranao sword. Maranaos are form Lanao.

Show me a photo of a kris collected years ago with a cherry-varnished handle head. I would love to see it since I believe there...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd July 2008, 04:22 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 91,965
Posted By baganing_balyan
Was this sword sold to you as an old kris? If it...

Was this sword sold to you as an old kris? If it was, actually it is not. Old krises do not have varnished ratan strips if they were used as decorative bands. The handle head was also varnished.
...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 11:17 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
ask a philosopher or philologist if this is not...

ask a philosopher or philologist if this is not an argumentum ad hominem:

"You are well and truly out of your depth."

to make that a statement about an idea not a person, he could have used...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 11:08 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
I hope mr. maisey won't think that i am...

I hope mr. maisey won't think that i am discrediting him. I am just offering alternative ideas.

for instance spear-hunting on a horse is pretty obvious that kris cannot be used. That's a valid...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 10:14 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
Thanks for the link. I am primarily interested...

Thanks for the link. I am primarily interested in the relationship between the turks and aceh in sixteenth century. Turling wrote about such relationship.

I have no doubt that Islamic arabs from...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 09:05 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
In addition, y-chromosome haplogroup P is found...

In addition, y-chromosome haplogroup P is found in Java, south america, carribean, egypt, and other places where there are pyramids. It has been a well-established theory that pyramid builders in...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 08:52 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
You can attak me with ad hominems i will stick to...

You can attak me with ad hominems i will stick to the bigger picture of my research not to the tiny track where i see a crack. Now, that's a rhyme.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 03:43 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
besides, if kuriga was curiga with ch sound,...

besides, if kuriga was curiga with ch sound, churiga would have evolved into suriga since ch in malay is turned into s. unfortunately there is no suriga in malay languages.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 03:26 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
I will never refrain from rethinking and...

I will never refrain from rethinking and reconsidering the old works of the colonialists and orientalists.

ask an american or european if he can say an aspirated K with H. I bet either one will...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 12:34 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
They will find out your haplotype and the...

They will find out your haplotype and the haplogroup where you belong. I am not a geneticist, but I can analyze the genetic data in relation to geographical peopling.

It's very technical and...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 09:14 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
correction on my one blog post that keras was the...

correction on my one blog post that keras was the source of keris. it is actually the opposite.

I just got hold of the genetic map this week; hence, i am pretty sure now that keris is from the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 09:02 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
In Nawanatya, twek from tuwek, sanskrit for the...

In Nawanatya, twek from tuwek, sanskrit for the sword's point, was used as a metaphor for men's masculinity. Twek is not a sword. It is where the filipino's tusok (thrust) from tuwok, a variation,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 08:31 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
on yataghan: the two sides of the handle's...

on yataghan:

the two sides of the handle's pommel are not just ears. They are actually heads of the turkish mythical bird, anka-- Turkish for phoenix-- this is also known as simurgh or senmurv, a...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 07:42 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
... because it would disprove many historical...

... because it would disprove many historical conventions.

Using a genetic map, haplogroup J (for arabs) was not present in the Philippines, Sumatra, and Borneo before 1500.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 07:29 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
can you show me a 14th century text where "keris"...

can you show me a 14th century text where "keris" is used? I have been looking for that text for years now.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 05:01 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
The Philippine history says that the Islamization...

The Philippine history says that the Islamization of Mindanao happened in late 1300's. I am really doubtful of that date. 14th century Moroccan traveler Ibn Batuta, a Islamic scholar, reported that...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 12:26 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 161,787
Posted By baganing_balyan
when I used the images in my previous posts, I...

when I used the images in my previous posts, I did not mind about the dates. I only used them as representations since I had no idea about the exact dates the artifacts were made. So when I use the...
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