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paolo
24th June 2007, 10:07 AM
Hi all,
I got this kudi. The seller told :" the blade is not one of these lots of fakes..... it is antique". I like to have Your comments about the "antiquity" of the blade and on the whole item (I never saw a similar one), whose origin should be West Java (Java Barat).
Regards
Paolo

Lew
24th June 2007, 11:08 AM
Hey guys

Didn't we get shots for them kudies when we were kids :eek: ;) :D


Very interesting dagger.

Lew

cahaya
25th June 2007, 06:46 AM
Hai Paolo....
nice colection....
but please beware...

this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)


thanks
cahaya
note:just for my study

Battara
26th June 2007, 01:01 AM
Do you think this is a recent manufacture?

Alam Shah
26th June 2007, 02:42 AM
Do you think this is a recent manufacture?My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here (http://www.valiantco.com/java4.html) ], [ more (http://www.valiantco.com/java/kujangpamor.html) ]. ;)

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straighter' than the Valiant Co examples.

Alam Shah
26th June 2007, 02:52 AM
...this pictures just my ilustration.... (sorry i copy frm your picture)
note:just for my studyCahaya, I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me... :confused:

David
26th June 2007, 03:49 AM
My first thoughts too. Reminds me of Valiant Co pieces... [ examples here (http://www.valiantco.com/java4.html) ], [ more (http://www.valiantco.com/java/kujangpamor.html) ]. ;)

However, the curvature of this piece is 'straigther' than the Valaint Co examples.
My thoughts as well.

cahaya
26th June 2007, 04:37 AM
...I don't understand what is it that you're trying to convey from your illustration? Please enlighten me... :confused:

Hi alam

... :D i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... :confused: ,..can i..?

Alam Shah
26th June 2007, 05:02 AM
Hi alam

... :D i dont understand too abaut what i'm doing , i'm try to imaging if i have spear (a big one) n try to make a kudi ..... :confused: ,..can i..?I guess, it's possible to make one. :)

paolo
26th June 2007, 10:09 AM
Surely my kudi looks similar to the Valiant Co, but IMO is of an higher quality. I know that with arsenic bathes is possible to have an older blade, but the pamor has a good patina, that doesn't seems dued to repeated washes. Also the wood looks old, but I guess newer than the blade.
Paolo

Newsteel
26th June 2007, 10:14 AM
My thoughts as well.

Me too. But I have seen it somewhere in a local keris shop, exactly the same with that macan (tiger) hilt. The blade sure looks thick.

kronckew
26th June 2007, 11:51 AM
someone once told me that the ones with 5 holes along the spine were islamic, and represented the 5 pillars of the faith. the older ones had 3 holes, like this one of mine:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/kronckew/kujang2.jpg
(came from an estate sale on ebay, listed as an 'ugly rusty old knife')

cahaya
26th June 2007, 02:55 PM
someone once told me that the ones with 5 holes along the spine were islamic, and represented the 5 pillars of the faith. the older ones had 3 holes, like this one of mine:


Hi Kronckew,..

yes you are right...

ni collection... congratulation...

asian-keris
26th June 2007, 08:28 PM
Hi all,
Sorry but this seems to be a nice reproduction.
The blade texture Or patine looks be etched into the blade.
The dapur is not like the old ones. (to perfect holes and outlinings)
Nice but Modern sarong.
Gert-Jan

ganjawulung
27th June 2007, 01:18 AM
Dear All,
I've posted before, these pictures of kudi and kudi-daun (leaf-kudi) in another thread. I hope it is still useful for comparison. The kudi's sheath, is 20th century Surakarta's style with "sunggingan" (wayang ornamenting).

Ganjawulung

Alam Shah
27th June 2007, 03:30 AM
My broken Kujang Badak mata 3. Nothing spectacular... just for comparison. ;)
Also known as Kujang cengkok Mangku Alam.

ganjawulung
17th July 2007, 03:38 AM
This is more comparison on kudi, or West Javanese people say as Kujang... Sorry for not cleaning it yet. I hope it is not wasting your time..

Ganjawulung