A Pair of Pike Heads,but from Where ?

[drac2k]

I just acquired these 2 Pike Heads and I am guessing that they are of European Origin.
The blade of the longer one measures 19.75" x 7" and all of the edges are quite sharp.
The shorter heavy blade is 14" x 4" and it is also surprisingly sharp;the total length with the socket is 20".The shaft must have been very large as the inside diameter is 1& 9/16".
Can anyone have an idea where they came from & how old?

[Fernando K]

Hello. I think the second one has a rein cutter.

Sincerely

[drac2k]

Thanks, those were my thoughts as well;any idea of the country of origin and the approx. age?

[M ELEY]

Could the top example be a spontoon versus a pike head? Both great examples! Nice patina/aging, so not Historismus/19th. They look at least 18th or earlier-

[drac2k]

Thanks!You are probably right;I lazily use pike, halbred, and spontoon interchangeably because I am not well versed enough to know the difference.The longer blade could almost be Chinese in configuration if not for the socket and sidestraps that attach to the haft.
I wonder if they could be American or British as I found some similarities in "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution;" I even got desperate enough to pull out my old "Stone's Glossary," but still no luck.
I do agree with you that they appear to be older examples.

[CSinTX]

The longer one is usually described as Swedish naval 17th or 18th C. You see them labeled as m.1697 but that label also gets applied to the model that looks more like a traditional halberd. Not sure which is the correct 1697.

[drac2k]

Thanks!