A Pair of Pike Heads,but from Where ?

[drac2k]

I just acquired these 2 Pike Heads and I am guessing that they are of European Origin.
The blade of the longer one measures 19.75" x 7" and all of the edges are quite sharp.
The shorter heavy blade is 14" x 4" and it is also surprisingly sharp;the total length with the socket is 20".The shaft must have been very large as the inside diameter is 1& 9/16".
Can anyone have an idea where they came from & how old?

[Fernando K]

Hello. I think the second one has a rein cutter.

Sincerely

[drac2k]

Thanks, those were my thoughts as well;any idea of the country of origin and the approx. age?

[M ELEY]

Could the top example be a spontoon versus a pike head? Both great examples! Nice patina/aging, so not Historismus/19th. They look at least 18th or earlier-

[drac2k]

Thanks!You are probably right;I lazily use pike, halbred, and spontoon interchangeably because I am not well versed enough to know the difference.The longer blade could almost be Chinese in configuration if not for the socket and sidestraps that attach to the haft.
I wonder if they could be American or British as I found some similarities in "Swords & Blades of the American Revolution;" I even got desperate enough to pull out my old "Stone's Glossary," but still no luck.
I do agree with you that they appear to be older examples.