16th-17th century dagger to identify

[Lansquenet59]

Hello,

Can anyone identify this dagger? It is not mine, but a collector whom I met on another forum. With his permission, I put the photos here. Your comments are welcome. I think this model is Spanish.

[ulfberth]

Spanish second half of the 17 th C ( or could it be Portugese ? )
Its a left hand dagger to go with what the Spanish call " espada de conchas " as shown in the picture below.
Altough the crossguard does look a bit puny and its a bit out of proportion its still very appealing , I guess you have the acquire the taste for it. This dagger is in all parts Original no doubth whatsoever.
Please tell your friend I like the sabre in the picture in the brass scabbard its a French first empire sabre of the Imperial guards ( chasseur a cheval de la Garde Imperial )

[fernando]

Very nice left hander indeed, Thomas. Solingen on the blade ? ...

[Lansquenet59]

Thank you for the answer.
No, it's not Soligen. False impression.
Probably the manufacturer, we should look for Spanish designers. If someone has an idea...

[fernando]

Thomas, i don't see any name with these letters groupings in Palomares Nomina.
... And, until better judgement, i would stick to IN SOLINGEN ... misspelled, overspelled, whatever :o

[Lansquenet59]

If that's it, it's really very misspelled, which is not consistent.
An interesting question, could Germany have produced blades for Spain?

[Lansquenet59]

You may be right Fernando

[fernando]

... An interesting question, could Germany have produced blades for Spain?...
Bundles and bundles ... as also for Portugal.

[fernando]

... You may be right Fernando ...
You saved me from having to do that sketch ... which i was about to do ;).

[M ELEY]

Excellent acquisition! I was curious about the 'spoon-shaped' depression near the ricasso. Is it purely for decoration or did it possibly serve another function? (my overly imaginative mind thinks of 'gunners stilettos' with both tool and weapon function)- :shrug:

[fernando]

Excellent acquisition! I was curious about the 'spoon-shaped' depression near the ricasso...
Most left handers of this type have a simiilar depression, Mark. You press your thumb in there to secure it in the right position ... like in mine.

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[M ELEY]

Thanks for that clarification, 'Nando. I've always wanted to own one of these maine gauche I believe they're called.

[fernando]

Thanks for that clarification, 'Nando. I've always wanted to own one of these maine gauche I believe they're called.
Dague de main gauche, daga de mano izquierda, adaga de mão esquerda, left hand dagger ... all mean the same; take a pick ;) .