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Old 27th November 2023, 04:51 PM   #1
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Hello all,

new to this forum, thanks for having me along.

I am retired due to the sudden death of my wife.
I started collecting again in order to have something to do and to think of something else.
The satisfaction I used to find in it is less then in the old days, but it keeps me buissy.
I am therfore traveling around in order to fetch my stuff. And I am in south Portugal now.

The first item I want to show you is a sword I got in on a previous voyage.
It is a Musketeers sword to the second compagnie, the so called black musqueteers. Created by Richelieu.
I ain't got it with me, so I can not give you more details then the pictures I have with me.
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Old 27th November 2023, 05:01 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Kristiaan; and greetings from the North of Portugal .
A most interesting sword. Can you tell us what is the name of that fourbisseur, as it is not so clear in the picture ?
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I would like to join welcoming you here as well, and thank you for sharing such an amazing sword with such remarkable historic associations. As you have noted, this unit was originally formed in 1622 during the reign of Louis XIII and reported to Cardinal Richelieu. After his death in 1642, there were various reorganizations and in 1664 there were two units , Grey and Black, said to be aligned with the colors of horses they rode.

The white cross emblem was worn on their tabard when they were formed to defend the Catholic cause during Hugeunot rebellions.

This officers sword must be from the reformation of the unit in 1789 -1799 period, disbanded after end of Revolution. It was reinstated 1814 then finally disbanded in 1816.

It is a remarkable sword from a period and type not often seen, especially with markings to this unit. This unit of musketeers had in its ranks the very characters who were placed in Dumas' 1844 classic "The Three Musketeers".

I admire your courage and strength to continue your pursuit into these interests after a terrible loss, my sincere condolences.






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Old 28th November 2023, 11:22 AM   #4
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I would like to join welcoming you here as well, and thank you for sharing such an amazing sword with such remarkable historic associations. As you have noted, this unit was originally formed in 1622 during the reign of Louis XIII and reported to Cardinal Richelieu. After his death in 1642, there were various reorganizations and in 1664 there were two units , Grey and Black, said to be aligned with the colors of horses they rode.

The white cross emblem was worn on their tabard when they were formed to defend the Catholic cause during Hugeunot rebellions.

This officers sword must be from the reformation of the unit in 1789 -1799 period, disbanded after end of Revolution. It was reinstated 1814 then finally disbanded in 1816.

It is a remarkable sword from a period and type not often seen, especially with markings to this unit. This unit of musketeers had in its ranks the very characters who were placed in Dumas' 1844 classic "The Three Musketeers".

I admire your courage and strength to continue your pursuit into these interests after a terrible loss, my sincere condolences.






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Thank you for your welcoming and your empathy.
And of course also for your appreciation.
It is a iconic piece, to me.
One that was never on my list.
But when it crossed my path, I couldn't ressist.
It's a bit like owing the pistol of Lucky Luck, or the cap of Capitaine Haddock of Tintin...
"The 3 musqueteers" comes in on the same admiration I had for this story's as a child....

I am more into headresses, but blades do come in from time to time.
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Old 28th November 2023, 02:07 PM   #5
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What a wonderful grouping!!! and love the Manding saber from Mali !!
It is amazing to have such weapons with such pedigree, as they bring to life the classics in books and movies to life. ...especially with M.Dumas, 'the Fencing Master' himself.

The skull is a intriguing accent.
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Thank you.
"Skulls" is a collecting theme as well, but this might lead us of topic....
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Welcome to the forum, Kristiaan; and greetings from the North of Portugal .
A most interesting sword. Can you tell us what is the name of that fourbisseur, as it is not so clear in the picture ?
Obrigado Fernando,
Thank you also for your appreciation.
The engraving of fourbisseur isn't that clear ...
What I can make of it is; " Giverne Fourbisseur rue Vieille Lpe royale Paris
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