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Old 29th November 2023, 11:00 PM   #31
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Another one that perhaps resemble the most with the Singa in the Keris under discussion except without wings.
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Old 30th November 2023, 12:21 PM   #32
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When I wrote my post#5 I could not remember the name of this protector of children. I spent a lot of time looking for him, and I couldn't find him anywhere.

Today I was thinking of two doors I'm having made & how I could schedule the painting of them, in the middle of this intensely interesting train of thought about work I don't like very much, the word "Kumara" popped into my mind, and then "Rare" followed.

The name of that Balinese god of children is Rare Kumara.

I searched that name and here is a link to a thread that is perhaps useful:-

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?p=272573

peculiar the way the human mind works.
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Old 30th November 2023, 05:39 PM   #33
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Hello Alan,
This is my opinion only but this carving does not look like a standard singa for the following reasons:
. Head: fangs, bulging eyes, ears, hair
. Wings
. Sitting position, no penis, unclear tail, animal under its front legs.
I don't remember to have ever seen such a carved animal on a balinese blade but would be curious to see a similar one. However I admit that it has no clear beak so that it may not depict Garuda.
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Jean, winged singo seem to be rather common in Bali. Here is a 19th century example that features fangs, bulging eyes hair, no clear indication of a penis and not an animal, but a human infant underneath its legs.
I think your expectations of a singo might be more based upon the Javanese model.
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Old 30th November 2023, 05:54 PM   #34
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Here are a few more Balinese singo interpretations, including two on keris blades. I don't really see any "standard" in any of these Bali examples.
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Old 30th November 2023, 08:35 PM   #35
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Jean, winged singo seem to be rather common in Bali. Here is a 19th century example that features fangs, bulging eyes hair, no clear indication of a penis and not an animal, but a human infant underneath its legs.
I think your expectations of a singo might be more based upon the Javanese model.
Yes David, you are correct.
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