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Old 15th August 2020, 04:08 PM   #1
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I'd like to share some pictures with you from one of my Palembang keris, for your enjoyment / feedback….

A sepokal blade with Pamor: keleng, and a sharply defined ada-ada running full length of the blade.
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Old 15th August 2020, 10:11 PM   #2
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Text book Palembang, however, if we saw this blade alone, by itself only, no dress, what classification (ie, tangguh) would we be forced to give it?
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Old 16th August 2020, 11:46 AM   #3
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Looks like a Balinese blade to my eyes ... But my beginning opinion could surely be wrong hahaha
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Old 16th August 2020, 01:00 PM   #4
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No, not Bali.
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Old 16th August 2020, 01:04 PM   #5
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Not a sepokal blade anyway IMO
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Old 16th August 2020, 01:24 PM   #6
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True Jean, it is not, I'd give it as Sinom Robyong, but the interesting thing is the tannguh that it is not, but in a different suit of clothes, would be.
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Old 17th August 2020, 09:36 AM   #7
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I'd like to share some pictures with you from one of my Palembang keris, for your enjoyment / feedback….
Just to state the obvious: I believe this is a very neat status blade which is also confirmed by the high-quality timber selected for the scabbard crosspiece. (I can't see much of the stem - this may have been covered by a suasa pendok, anyway.)

My guess is that this keris dates back to the early period when the Dutch took over Palembang. However, the hilt and the selut seem to be much younger and of lesser quality. I'd put these in a box and look for a high-quality Palembang hilt to bring this ensemble back to its former glory. Luckily, Palembang hilts are not terribly rare - make sure to find one with a real Palembang selut and of suitable size to the blade though! (I don't recommend trying to upgrade any keris by default; I'm sure this isn't an original ensemble though.)

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Old 17th August 2020, 01:13 PM   #8
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Jean & Kai, I do find your comments interesting, but I do not wish to float my own general comments.

This is in my opinion a keris ( I am speaking of the keris itself, not the keris + dress) from which more than a little might be learnt.

Are either of you prepared to nominate a classification, ie, tangguh, for this keris?
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Old 17th August 2020, 01:24 PM   #9
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Sirek, what is the length of the bade (excluding the pesi) please?
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Old 17th August 2020, 04:59 PM   #10
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Sirek, what is the length of the bade (excluding the pesi) please?
Hi Jean, the length of the blade is 34cm
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Old 17th August 2020, 05:35 PM   #11
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Hello Alan,

Well, the square blumbangan points to the Mataram line (including extant offspring substyles). The ron dha are very crisp - most old blades will exhibit worn down and restored greneng.

From the excellent state of preservation, I'd guess that this blade entered a colonial collection right after manufacture; there even seem to be some working scratches left at the base.

I believe that this blade got crafted in Palembang following old Mataram style; if the ri padan were not sharp on the inside curve (difficult to establish from the posted pics - an angled view would help), this would support the notion.

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Hello Kai, are these pictures any help?

(and you are absolutely right, the hilt and the selut are of inferior quality and will definitely be replaced in the future )
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the length of the blade is 34cm
Sorry, some nit-picking: If really measured from gonjo (at the center of the pesi) to the tip of the blade, it will be in the range of 330-335mm - pretty much average if there is any such thing with Palembang blades.

As mentioned, this doesn't mean much: I've handled Palembang blades of this dhapur from close to 200mm (8") to well over 400mm (16")!

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