Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
18th January 2023, 04:17 AM
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Sid, I'd like to rephrase your question:-
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Sid, I'd like to rephrase your question:-
Are keris thought of in other S.E. Asian societies as they are in traditional Javanese society?
I believe that varying socio-cultural values are...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
17th January 2023, 07:27 PM
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Sid, social attitudes & mores change over time,...
Sid, social attitudes & mores change over time, but foundation philosophies that are the hall marks of a society rarely change, they might be expressed in varying ways as time passes, but the threads...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
8th January 2023, 08:08 PM
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Sid, I think your post #36 is close to the mark...
Sid, I think your post #36 is close to the mark from one perspective, but long, long before the internet came along, collectors and students of the keris, and just about everything else collectable...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
8th January 2023, 07:42 PM
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Keris, tombak and other items of tosan aji are...
Keris, tombak and other items of tosan aji are regarded as having protective qualities.
When they are on display in a traditional Javanese home they are usually put in a strategic position that...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
7th January 2023, 06:41 PM
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Replies: 43
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Yes, you're right David, as far as I can see,...
Yes, you're right David, as far as I can see, this loose use is only with people who are dealers, craftsmen, collectors.
A tukang wrongko who did a lot of work for me used "pusaka" for everything,...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
7th January 2023, 12:48 AM
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Replies: 43
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
6th January 2023, 07:38 AM
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Replies: 43
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I think that what you relate in post #25 is...
I think that what you relate in post #25 is probably pretty true of Indonesia also Green, however, my experience of Indonesia is limited to Central Jawa, mainly Solo, East Jawa, mainly Malang, places...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
5th January 2023, 11:08 PM
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Replies: 43
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David, regarding the word "pusaka".
It has...
David, regarding the word "pusaka".
It has several meanings, in Bahasa Indonesia it simple means "heirloom".
In Javanese it can mean an heirloom or revered object that has been passed down...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
5th January 2023, 09:11 PM
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Replies: 43
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Rasdan, I cannot give a definite, factual...
Rasdan, I cannot give a definite, factual response to that question, all I know for certain is that amongst the people who were close friends & associates of PP, and amongst some older people whom I...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
5th January 2023, 05:34 AM
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Replies: 43
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I agree completely Green.
Absolutely a...
I agree completely Green.
Absolutely a personal choice.
However, for the traditionalists of Central Jawa whom I know and have known, that personal choice was and is to observe the ways of their...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
4th January 2023, 10:49 PM
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Replies: 43
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As I said David:- detective control
It all...
As I said David:- detective control
It all happens, somebody suffers loss, then we catch the baddies.
That's what audit & compliance is about, and as I understand it, in Bernies case the...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
4th January 2023, 08:14 PM
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Replies: 43
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Yeah, I've heard of this David, but I've never...
Yeah, I've heard of this David, but I've never encountered it, I have an almost invisible presence on social media --- more now than I have previously held --- & I do not buy on the internet.
But...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
4th January 2023, 06:33 PM
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Replies: 43
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You seem to be in a different, but somewhat...
You seem to be in a different, but somewhat similar position to my own David.
Sometimes I would very much like to show a photo of something in order to provide clarification, but I do not do this...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
4th January 2023, 11:10 AM
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Replies: 43
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Actually Sid, most collectors do not have...
Actually Sid, most collectors do not have problems with showing their acquisitions to whomever may wish to look.
That is exactly what I said in post #2:-
"The pure collectors are usually more...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
4th January 2023, 12:46 AM
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Replies: 43
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Sid, my approach to this idea of sharing a...
Sid, my approach to this idea of sharing a personal keris with strangers began the very first time I went to Indonesia. I visited Jogja, I could not speak Indonesian, I hired a guide to show me...
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi
3rd January 2023, 10:19 PM
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Replies: 43
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