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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2022, 01:30 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jaga -- yes, a "pakem" is a guide book, we have...

Jaga -- yes, a "pakem" is a guide book, we have all sorts of pakems, even pakems about cooking.

The Surakarta guidebook relating to keris is directed at very high level keris, kraton keris, in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2022, 06:30 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 238
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Any keris with a longish gandhik has either...

Any keris with a longish gandhik has either "kebo" or "mahisa" (maesa) as a part of the name, both words (there are spelling variations) mean "kerbau", "water buffalo", just different language...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th August 2022, 05:02 AM
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Views: 238
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Gandhik?

Gandhik?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th August 2022, 09:28 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 238
Posted By A. G. Maisey
If it did not have luk, what might it be?

If it did not have luk, what might it be?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th August 2022, 12:17 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your further comments Rasdan. ...

Thank you for your further comments Rasdan.

Bahasa Indonesia and Modern Malay are to a large degree mutually intelligible, but Modern Malay was preceded by Classical Malay, which was in common...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th August 2022, 10:44 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Rasdan, what I have written is an over-view, it...

Rasdan, what I have written is an over-view, it is taken from a lot of notes made during a phone conversation, & compressed into something short enough and direct enough to be read quickly without...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th August 2022, 11:34 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
In post #46 I wrote that I was unable to provide...

In post #46 I wrote that I was unable to provide a clear explanation of "taksu", last night I took steps to remedy this deficiency and made a very long phone call to a lady I know in Bali who is an...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th August 2022, 01:32 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you David & Rasdan for your comments. ...

Thank you David & Rasdan for your comments.

Rasdan, I'm not sure that the "essence" of the keris remains the same in both societies, but I do think that the "roots" remain the same.

I tend to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 8th August 2022, 01:30 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Its probably about time i added a few titles to...

Its probably about time i added a few titles to it Rick.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th August 2022, 11:09 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep Rick, dead right, but if I were to pick just...

Yep Rick, dead right, but if I were to pick just one of those listed sources, I'd pick Wiener.

However, not many people want to begin at ground level, they just want to pick the roses, not try to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th August 2022, 08:52 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 914
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Really Marco? Or perhaps you mean in the...

Really Marco?

Or perhaps you mean in the archaic sense:- "with sense" (Oxford)
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th August 2022, 04:28 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have never attempted to set forth in writing my...

I have never attempted to set forth in writing my own understanding of the concept of "isi" in a keris. I do know thoroughly the folk beliefs of Jawa that relate to this concept, equally I know well...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th August 2022, 01:44 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 914
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Most are recent Jean, certainly, and the...

Most are recent Jean, certainly, and the execution is not particularly good, but these are legitimate forms.

The smallish one looks as if it has a bit of age.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd August 2022, 10:55 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for those links David. I am...

Thank you for those links David.

I am reluctant to comment much on the content of either link, but I think I can perhaps make a couple of comments that should not offend anybody.

Both gentlemen...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd August 2022, 09:27 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Time changes perspective Jaga. That simple. ...

Time changes perspective Jaga.

That simple.

The way in which anything has been thought about in the past is only relative to that time.

Islam did not abolish the keris, it just set out to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd August 2022, 08:46 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
This story is one I've heard more times than I...

This story is one I've heard more times than I can count, it varies in the details but the overall theme is always the same:-

keris > strange, inexplicable happenings> old man, not always visible...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd August 2022, 02:51 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Not quite YS. This "prayers in steel" thing...

Not quite YS.

This "prayers in steel" thing is, I believe, pretty new, but it is understandable.

It is not something I ever heard from the people who taught me, I have the feeling that the idea...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st August 2022, 10:44 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jean, what I have written above is a very brief,...

Jean, what I have written above is a very brief, very superficial outline of the major belief system concerning the way in which the concept of tuah was understood by the people in Solo who taught...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st August 2022, 09:38 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 667
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I can agree with Jean's opinion.

I can agree with Jean's opinion.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st August 2022, 09:30 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
In post #21 this is what I wrote:- "There...

In post #21 this is what I wrote:-

"There are two very basic concepts that need to be clearly understood before we can advance, those two concepts are encapsulated in two words:-

tuah and isi
...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st August 2022, 12:30 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,366
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Milandro, Jaga is pretty much correct with what...

Milandro, Jaga is pretty much correct with what he has written about dress for blades, but I will extend his comments just a little.

We need to make this decision about dress on a case by case...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th July 2022, 12:02 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,366
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I cannot see evidence of a core. I can see...

I cannot see evidence of a core.

I can see several indicators that incline me to think East Jawa, maybe Madura, after 1850.

The after 1850 guess is because it does not look as if it has a core...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 27th July 2022, 10:01 AM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep, pretty much so Jaga. As for "wrong" I'm...

Yep, pretty much so Jaga.

As for "wrong" I'm a bit inclined to the idea that where opinions concerning beliefs are concerned nobody can be out & out wrong, but respected masters might well have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th July 2022, 09:05 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 3,247
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, in Jawa some of the concepts & ideas that...

David, in Jawa some of the concepts & ideas that are found within the Kejawen system of belief can also be found within keris systems of belief, but these concepts & ideas came from somewhere else...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th July 2022, 08:25 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,366
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Two questions:- can we please have a photo,...

Two questions:-

can we please have a photo, or maybe if necessary a couple of photos that show the top of the gonjo, ie, looking straight down onto the tip of the pesi; I would like to see the...
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