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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th October 2021, 06:07 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
OK, it becomes clear. As a general...

OK, it becomes clear.

As a general observation, when we come across these motifs with swirling vines and an overall feeling of vegetation, what we are seeing is a lung-lungan motif.

"Lung"...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th October 2021, 12:57 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
The Balinese hilt shown from other perspectives. ...

The Balinese hilt shown from other perspectives.

"--- vegetative phallus ---"?

I cannot see this.

This hilt is a depiction of Nawasari, the "tumpal throne" is a repetition of the Gunungan...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th October 2021, 09:47 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
and a few more. I've got quite a lot of old...

and a few more.

I've got quite a lot of old ivory, I've always liked it, and have bought over many years.

EDIT

Sorry, that bottom pic is bone, I pulled these pics from a folder with a few...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th October 2021, 09:39 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Here are a few more ivory hilts.

Here are a few more ivory hilts.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th September 2021, 09:48 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,744
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Actually Montino, I feel that "like" and "not...

Actually Montino, I feel that "like" and "not like" is a pretty OK place to start, in fact, maybe this is a good criterion for most people.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th September 2021, 09:08 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,744
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Novan, this is a solid presentation. Keep...

Novan, this is a solid presentation.

Keep this sort of thinking up and you might even get to learn something worthwhile about the keris.

Well done.

Alan - thanks for clarifying the meaning...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th September 2021, 01:01 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
All this is true Ariel, but for my area of...

All this is true Ariel, but for my area of interest history is only one aspect, and it is not particularly reliable for the areas I have an interest in. Much of the so-called "history" for Jawa,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th September 2021, 12:46 PM
Replies: 39
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes Ian, I know this. I understood that this...

Yes Ian, I know this.

I understood that this was really the only way to go after my first visit to Jawa, 50 or so years ago, but before that I had already been studying the cultures and societies...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th September 2021, 02:05 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
If this blade has flat faces & steeply angled...

If this blade has flat faces & steeply angled bevel to the edge, it is a Bugis pattern, which is a cultural association, not a geographic one. I have no idea where it might have come from.

As you...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th September 2021, 01:07 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
About the keris Ariel. I am not averse to...

About the keris Ariel.

I am not averse to teaching, and I have given face to face information & explanation to a few people, but there are problems.

Most of the people who have sought knowledge...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th September 2021, 09:45 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
I do not know the examples you have quoted Ariel,...

I do not know the examples you have quoted Ariel, but in our exchanges I do not think we were debating, I viewed the entire series of exchanges as an attempt on my part to gain a clear understanding...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th September 2021, 01:30 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I think English would be a swine of a language to...

I think English would be a swine of a language to learn.I'm glad I was born as a native speaker.

But it is I think a very marvelous language, a wonderful tool for communication. I am familiar with...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th September 2021, 08:56 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Ariel, I actually asked a couple...

Thank you Ariel,

I actually asked a couple of questions, I'm guessing you have answered "of course" to both of these questions. So I assume you mean that the relaxed approach is fine where no...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th September 2021, 10:53 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your response Ariel. I believe...

Thank you for your response Ariel.

I believe that you & I are on the same page in respect of the standards for discussion on this forum. I can find nothing with which to disagree in your response....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th September 2021, 12:17 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your further comments Ariel. ...

Thank you for your further comments Ariel.

In my post #17 I asked this:-

"Ariel, if my understanding of that which you have written is incorrect I would appreciate your correction. It is...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th September 2021, 02:01 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,656
Posted By A. G. Maisey
It might be worth the time to have a look at...

It might be worth the time to have a look at Quaritch Wales -- "Ancient South East Asian Warfare".

I seem to recall that in that he mentions existence of a Japanese sword manufacturing industry in...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 24th September 2021, 01:52 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Ariel opened his "musings" comments with a...

Ariel opened his "musings" comments with a statement:-

"All scientific investigations are hypothesis driven."

The title of this thread that we are contributing to is:-

"Academic research:...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd September 2021, 09:41 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
That's a nice statement in support of the...

That's a nice statement in support of the scientific method Bob, and I doubt that anybody would want to debate what you have put forward, but I will offer this:-

no hypothesis can be put forward...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd September 2021, 02:42 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 2,438
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Ariel, you have asked what we think of your...

Ariel, you have asked what we think of your musings.

My opinion must be a non-academic opinion, since I am not now, and never have been an academic, but my short opinion is that , yes, I think...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th September 2021, 09:24 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,402
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Sorry David, I have no way in which to form...

Sorry David, I have no way in which to form opinion.

If I look at the grain of the iron, it does not appear to be broken, the same grain line flows through, as far as I can see. I suppose it is...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th September 2021, 01:01 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,454
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Post #4. The Dutch Lion of Orange.

Post #4.

The Dutch Lion of Orange.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 20th September 2021, 01:15 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,402
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I can see something that looks like the remains...

I can see something that looks like the remains of markings, but I cannot make much of it, one of these markings looks a bit like erosion of a lamination.

Sorry, I cannot give any opinion on these...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 18th September 2021, 11:05 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,402
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The way I was taught to understand complong was...

The way I was taught to understand complong was that it could be either an intentionally forged hole or gap ("complong" (Jav.) simply means "hole or gap or opening") or one that has been developed...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th September 2021, 01:47 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 14,969
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I'm not going to say anything about wootz, I do...

I'm not going to say anything about wootz, I do not understand the material, and I do not know how to recognise the types nor how to etch & stain them.

But I do understand mechanical damascus and...
Forum: Ethnographic Miscellania 8th September 2021, 04:19 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 11,941
Posted By A. G. Maisey
So --- this is the famous "Blue Bird of...

So --- this is the famous "Blue Bird of Happiness" ?
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