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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 10:57 PM
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Posted By David
Well, i have read it twice and skimmed many...

Well, i have read it twice and skimmed many sections since.
As Alan has pointed out, the none keris sections may be as important to understanding the keris in a Balinese context as the more...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th November 2021, 11:57 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,452
Posted By David
Alan, thank you for taking the time to attempt to...

Alan, thank you for taking the time to attempt to approach, at least in part, Jag's difficult questions, and Jag, thanks for asking them in the first place. At first i too wondered whether this forum...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2021, 11:11 PM
Replies: 8
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Posted By David
I am a bit confused. AFAIK the site mechanize...

I am a bit confused. AFAIK the site mechanize does not reorient images when you upload. So i don't know how they would have been turned in a direction that they were not originally in.
It's a shame...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2021, 10:50 PM
Replies: 5
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Posted By David
I used to have a very similar sheath to this with...

I used to have a very similar sheath to this with a decent old Bali blade in it that i have since passed on. The motifs carved on this one are pretty much exactly the same, right down to the vegetal...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2021, 10:31 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 329
Posted By David
Thanks Alan. I don't generally consider myself...

Thanks Alan. I don't generally consider myself very astute at assessing tangguh on keris, so i certainly am willing to defer to you on this one. You are correct that i at first went with old Madura...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2021, 03:39 AM
Replies: 5
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Posted By David
Your dad lived in Solo, but this keris is from...

Your dad lived in Solo, but this keris is from Bali. The sheath is an old form of what many collectors have come to call "dance" sheaths. These are generally associated with Balinese tourist keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th November 2021, 03:25 AM
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Posted By David
Yes, this is a well made keris and the blade and...

Yes, this is a well made keris and the blade and hilt are indeed East Jawa/Madura in origin. I am less convinced that the gayaman style sheath is Madurese though. Does the blade fit perfectly into...
Forum: European Armoury 23rd November 2021, 05:58 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,403
Posted By David
I have to join the skeptical crowd here on the...

I have to join the skeptical crowd here on the authenticity of this mark. I suppose it is possible that the edges could have survived this well over all these years, but i must say that after taking...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th November 2021, 11:25 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 704
Posted By David
Others have addressed other aspects of your post,...

Others have addressed other aspects of your post, but not your remarks about meteorite.
Firstly, if Dayaks used meteorite in their blades (which i am not aware of), it would not be in amounts large...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 19th November 2021, 03:15 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 553
Posted By David
I thought someone else would have commented by...

I thought someone else would have commented by now.
I'm i the only one who wonders why this was the winning keris. I mean, i certainly don't this it is a bad or unattractive blade, the the winner?...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 16th November 2021, 03:49 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 727
Posted By David
Again, this i not my concentration of collection....

Again, this i not my concentration of collection. I own just one mandau and have had only one other in the past, but it seems rather inaccurate to use mandau as a an umbrella term for various Dayak...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th November 2021, 09:52 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,452
Posted By David
OK thanks. I appreciate your caution in not...

OK thanks. I appreciate your caution in not forming a definitive opinion here. But i assume you can see why i might wonder is a sheath form called "gayaman ladrang" would be acceptable formal wear...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th November 2021, 05:35 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,061
Posted By David
I am still looking for some clear instructional...

I am still looking for some clear instructional guidance on how to do twine wrapping on kris hilts in a traditional and attractive manner. I don't want to simply wrap a piece of twine around a hilt....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th November 2021, 05:02 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 727
Posted By David
I think some folks might call this a Tilang...

I think some folks might call this a Tilang Kamarau, but it is a little outside my collecting area to be too sure of myself. But i will say that AFAIK a Tilang Kamarau is not a type of Mandau. A...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th November 2021, 04:03 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,452
Posted By David
Thanks Alan. I was aware of many of these...

Thanks Alan. I was aware of many of these variations, but had thought it was more a matter of different eras and styles than different purposes. Though i don't have a copy of Haryoguritno's "Keris...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th November 2021, 11:22 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,452
Posted By David
Hi Alan. Could you expand upon your...

Hi Alan. Could you expand upon your identification of the wrongko as Gayaman Ladrang or possibly a Gayaman Kagok Bancihan. How do these forms of gayaman wrongko differ regarding form and place in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th November 2021, 03:45 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 1,452
Posted By David
Just to add to what Detlef has written, it is the...

Just to add to what Detlef has written, it is the gayaman (everyday) form of Surakarta dress. There is also that ladrang (formal) style.
"Luk" as Detlef wrote, refers to the number of waves. There...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th November 2021, 08:48 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,114
Posted By David
I would say that it is impossible to tell from...

I would say that it is impossible to tell from the current condition of this blade whether or not it is laminated. It would need to be polished and then etched to find out. So i personally will draw...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th November 2021, 04:18 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,114
Posted By David
Looking forward to seeing the restored barung. :)

Looking forward to seeing the restored barung. :)
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th November 2021, 02:26 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,114
Posted By David
I generally agree with Xasterix. I think it might...

I generally agree with Xasterix. I think it might be a little older than the 1980s, but not much. But we need to remember that "vintage" is generally 40 years or more and if this barung is from,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd November 2021, 09:15 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,224
Posted By David
David, that is indeed a lovely Parang Nabur and i...

David, that is indeed a lovely Parang Nabur and i am glad you are so pleased about it.
Regarding your comment above though, given that commercial posts of all kinds are banned on our forums it...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st November 2021, 07:16 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,051
Posted By David
Well, the sun in the triangle used by the 1st...

Well, the sun in the triangle used by the 1st Philippine Republic was always a full sun in the triangle, wasn't it? Not a partial sun on the horizon. And it os generally surrounded by 5-pointed...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2021, 06:52 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 19,377
Posted By David
I'm afraid i agree with the rest here. This still...

I'm afraid i agree with the rest here. This still looks like a fantasy weapon from the late 20th century. If it is in a book from 1983 it does mean it is much older than that date.
The blades do...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th October 2021, 03:41 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,317
Posted By David
That all depends what you mean by "Bugis keris"....

That all depends what you mean by "Bugis keris". This certainly looks like a keris that has been deeply influenced by Bugis style keris. It also looks like a rather recently created blade. Bugis...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th October 2021, 07:58 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,496
Posted By David
It clearly looks like 13 to me. Both Indonesian...

It clearly looks like 13 to me. Both Indonesian keris and Moro Kris will always have an odd number of waves.
A very nice Kris that certainly deserves some further restoration. Just be careful not...
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