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Old 24th November 2008, 07:33 PM   #1
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Default A very fine small portable haquebut (Halbhaken), the stock dated 1516 (?)

Painted on the right side of the down curved buttstock is a coat-of-arms, flanked by a somewhat blurred date, probably 1516, and most probably of Nürnberg make.

It never had a lock.

Preserved at the Kelvingrove Museum, Glasgow, purchased at auction at Christie's, Geneva, 16 April 1977.


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Old 24th November 2008, 07:35 PM   #2
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The date may more probably read 1510 or 1512.

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Old 24th November 2008, 07:49 PM   #3
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At first glance one might tend to read 1610 or 1612 but it should be kept in mind that cyphers like 5 were quite often reversed 500 years ago.

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Old 25th November 2008, 07:17 PM   #4
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Defining 500 year old datings can be very tricky indeed ...

Any suggestions?

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Old 25th November 2008, 07:21 PM   #5
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Alright, o.k.,

I realize what you want to know:

Any dating in between 1510-20 would, in my opinion, be formally correct - so what ...


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Default Reversed cypher 5 in the date 1504.

That's what I meant when noting that the spelling of the cyphers 3, 5 and 7 in 500 year old dates can be tricky sometimes.

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More impressions of the fine Halbhaken arquebus with the painted stock in the Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow.

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More impressions of the fine Halbhaken arquebus with the painted stock in the Kelvingrove Museum in Glasgow.

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Oh, thank you, Andrea Carloni and Jasper!

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The arquebus in post #1 measures only 73 cm overall, cal. 14 mm smoothbore.
The Kelvingrove Museum Glasgow, inv.no. A. 1977.65.up.

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