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Old 12th June 2006, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default Oriental ethno powder flask

Sorry to divert.
I don't find a model similar to this in the web or the few books i have.
Could it be Malabar, Indo Persian, ot thereabouts ?
It looks well used and a bit old ...
Would anyone kindly give me a track ?
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Old 12th June 2006, 08:57 PM   #2
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Old 12th June 2006, 11:41 PM   #3
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What tells you that it is Afghan?
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Old 13th June 2006, 04:03 AM   #4
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shape of piece plus file work on spring . will post some pics if I get time. This is a very nice piece
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Old 13th June 2006, 07:31 PM   #5
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Thank you Ward.
Quite a surprise this is Afghan, and so it seems for Ariel, too.
I am anxious to see those pictures of yours. I would like to see the use of that empty hole, near the spout cap. It would either be for another hook, like the existing one in the center, for a double suspended "lanyard", or for some device to hold the spout cap tightly closed. I hope your pictures will help to find that out.
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Old 13th June 2006, 11:21 PM   #6
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Here is a quick pic
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Old 14th June 2006, 12:20 AM   #7
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Thank you very much Ward
Very nice and deeply interesting. They all have a common suspension system ... double hanging from paralel rings, the only basic difference between those and mine.
I wonder what is the use of that little portruding device in the container bottom. I see now that mine use to have one of those, but is cut off now.
If ever you get a bit more defined picture, kindly do.
BTW, any specific region in Afghanistan they come from ?
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Old 14th June 2006, 12:56 AM   #8
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Here are some better images. I have to reduce the size of the photos so much I lose detail. Beyond being Turkoman I have never found a more detailed exact source in regard to cities.the bump protruding from the bottom of yours is the end of rod holding spring to container
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Old 14th June 2006, 01:39 AM   #9
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Beautifull and informative set. Still lots of detail can be observed, including the genuine chain. It's amazing that not much gunpowder you could keep in these reduced flasks ... something i will search further. I think i will now hang my example next to my Jezail Rifle stand. Thanks again for your pictures and explanation.
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Old 14th June 2006, 02:50 AM   #10
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I would venture a guess that these were for priming the pan rather than dispensing a pre measured charge for the projectile .
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Old 14th June 2006, 02:18 PM   #11
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yes I agree. It is used for priming. Much finer powder was used in pan than in the main charge.
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Old 14th June 2006, 08:16 PM   #12
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Thank you Rick ... good shot.
You are obviously right.
I was silly i didn't think twice, i should have figured this one myself, if i first reread my own little resources in the subject. Not only priming flasks contained finer powder, as also prevailled in use for priming the casserole ( pan ) even when pre-packed charges were already carried in units ( later cartridges ) for the bullit loads.
Thank you Ward
Would you guess an age on my piece ? 19th century ?
I promiss this is the last question ... i am already exceeding the reasonable extension for a thread out of the Forum vocation ... and your patience.
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Old 15th June 2006, 01:32 PM   #13
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19h century sounds about right .
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