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10th March 2020, 10:49 PM
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Well Alan, as i stated earlier, i do have both of her books on hilts and i would be most interested in seeing, if not owning (which is probably the only way i will get to see it) this upcoming book as well. I do not disagree with you commentary on her writing or perspective .  |
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11th March 2020, 12:19 PM
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Hello Alan, See the attached pic. I selected the other pic to better show the hairdesss in wayang style. Regards |
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11th March 2020, 12:31 PM
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Regarding the last book from Vanna: "Kris hilts, masterpieces of South-East Asian art", she asked me (and probably some Italian collectors also) to help her identifying some very rare pieces from the collection but I was unable to give her any justified opinion. So she wisely chose to be very careful about the identification of these hilts. Regards |
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11th March 2020, 01:36 PM
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Thanks Jean.
Yes, it does look like a serious donger, but there is nothing else I can see in this representation that would incline me to think I was looking at Bhima. Bhima is a very serious heavy. A Wide Boy. A hit man. He is not a pleasant young man with an other-worldly expression on his face. In Bali Hindu iconography, Classical Javanese iconography, Hindu iconography, the serpent around the neck or across the shoulder is normally associated with Siwa. But this little statue is Balinese, and Balinese carvers often have a mind of their own about how well known personages should be shown. Personally, I would not attempt to give this charming little gentleman any name at all. |
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7th November 2020, 06:45 PM
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I have receive this day the news about the new Vanna Ghiringhelli book |
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11th November 2020, 11:42 AM
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The book is not yet available on Amazon but it will be on some Italian bookshops from 14th November at the price of 38 Euros. Great!
 We badly need some kris events for boosting our spirits during this confinement period! Regards |
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11th November 2020, 12:24 PM
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Thanks, Mario!
Sounds like the event will be in Italian only, doesn't it? Regards, Kai |
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11th November 2020, 01:39 PM
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I think in Italian yes |
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11th November 2020, 01:47 PM
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Thank you. I managed to place an order for this book. Hopefully can get it. Last edited by Anthony G. : 12th November 2020 at 11:19 AM. |
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13th November 2020, 09:47 PM
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Thanks, Mario!
Here's the link for the lecture on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_CpxlR2T8Q Regards, Kai |
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14th November 2020, 06:15 PM
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Moderator Note: Marco, you cannot post links to the sale of this book on this forum. Open up a thread in the Keris Swap for that. Last edited by Marcokeris : 15th November 2020 at 08:31 AM. |
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6th December 2020, 01:00 AM
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To: Jean, et al. Re: Balarama.
Discussion about the identity of the gada/mace toting personage caught my attention. The material to follow is mostly from Wikipedia and Vedicfeed, and does not reflect my opinion about the identity of the personage; I don't know enough about the subject to have formed an opinion. It's food for thought, or more fodder for speculation.
Balarama is often depicted with a serpent canopy. He is mentioned at vedicfeed as being the incarnation of Shesha Naag, the Nagaraja, associated with Vishnu. Vedicfeed also says that Balarama is an avatar of Vishnu, Vishnu incarnated as Krishna, and that Shesha Naag is a manifestation of Vishnu. When Balarama "died"/ "disappeared"/ "reached the state of Yoga Samadhi", a spirit in the shape of a white snake came out of his mouth. Balarama isn't depicted with a serpent around his neck, but there's a definite association. Religion.wikia.org says "Balarama is almost always [italics mine] depicted as being fair skinned...". There is one 19th C. Nathdwara painting of Balarama and Revati, and Balarama is depicted with blue skin and yellow garments, including a yellow turban. However, he wields a plow in this painting, not a gada/mace. He may have roughly seven bulbous knots in his black hair, or they may be a serpent canopy; it's hard to tell from the picture. And although Shiva is known for the serpent around his neck, he is not known to wield a mace. Hanuman does wield a mace, but... I'll conclude now. Mickey |
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