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Old 18th March 2006, 09:30 AM   #1
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Default Old type off pakayun

I am looking for pictures in books off this type off pakayun.

Esspecially the hilt.

I found only one in shelford publication from 1901.
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Old 18th March 2006, 10:59 AM   #2
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Dajak, I think you can be very proud of this piece. From the land of the pakayun, I've not seen a hilt like yours and it remains the only example of it's kind I've seen to date and perhaps also in books?
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Old 18th March 2006, 11:21 AM   #3
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Dajak,

I always enjoy seeing your favourite Pakayun with the rare hilt.
I went through my files again but yours and Shelford's are the only one I could find with this hilt.
Maybe it's one of a kind and it's the same?

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Old 18th March 2006, 11:25 AM   #4
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WOW DAJAK, what a beauty!!!!!
I know nothing about this, but i see a very similar sword on this italian site:

http://www.earmi.it/armi/glossario/glossario18.htm

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!
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Old 18th March 2006, 11:34 AM   #5
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I think it's Dajak's.
You can also find it on http://old.blades.free.fr/ under Parang Dayak

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Old 18th March 2006, 11:41 AM   #6
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I think it's Dajak's.
You can also find it on http://old.blades.free.fr/ under Parang Dayak

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Old 18th March 2006, 03:00 PM   #7
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THANKS FOR THE LINK, FLAVIO
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Old 18th March 2006, 03:36 PM   #8
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Hi guys Thanks for the comment.


The pic I send to Dominique for his website the other I think did copy the pic of my pakayun.

The carry band is made from humain hair , I have seen the same with some mandau's .
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Old 18th March 2006, 04:35 PM   #9
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THANKS FOR POSTING THE PICTURES THIS PAKAYUN IS A EXCEPTIONAL EXAMPLE OF A RARE SWORD. I WAS WONDERING IF THE CARVED INSERTED PIECE IS WOOD, HORN OR SOMETHING ELSE, IT DEFINITELY ISN'T THE SAME KIND OF WOOD USED FOR THE REST OF THE HANDLE. I WISH I KNEW MORE ABOUT THE MURUT, THEIR CUSTOMS, ORIGINS, HISTORY AND BELIEFS . THEY SEEM TO BE DIFFERENT FROM MOST OF THE OTHER DAYAK TRIBES.
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Old 18th March 2006, 05:13 PM   #10
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A little info about the Muruts...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murut_people
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9054385

A picture of the Murut Longhouse

Traditional Costume of the Murut

http://www.sabah.org.my/bi/know_sabah/murut_costume.asp

Murut Legend of how tattoos protected men and women from crocodiles.

A crocodile family was having difficulty in producing the eggs needed to begin their family. The father was then sent by his wife to locate help. Not far upriver, a Murut kampong (native village) was discovered. The father approached a woman who was cooking dinner and she apprehensively agreed, fearing that her body would be snatched and eaten by the imposing crocodile. Together, they swam to a deep pool. The woman held on to the father's tail and they rapidly descended into the dark water until they reached the crocodile's nest. Soon thereafter, the Murut woman gave the ailing mother much needed advice and to the delight of the parents the eggs suddenly appeared.

The Murut woman returned to her home and because the crocodile parents were so pleased with her efforts, they promised all the Murut that if they tattooed an image of the crocodile on each shoulder, or two tattoos around their legs, all crocodiles would recognize them as friends and would never bring harm to them.

Paraphrasing after: Diary of F. Witti, Esq., During an Excursion in North Borneo from Maruda Bay to Papar - F. Witti (written in 1880 - never published).

Tribal tattoo distinctions

Muruts - Men who have fought, or who have gone on risky expeditions (headhunting I presume) are tattooed from the shoulders to the pit of the stomach, and all down the arms three-parallel stripes to the waist. (Hatton 1882) NOTE: This tattooing is similar to that of Siberut Island...

Rundum Muruts - stars on the front of the shoulder, above the breast, are often seen... each star denoted a head having been taken. When the third had been taken, another star was placed on the throat; then the forearms and thighs were tattooed, but with no special design. (Rutter 1929)

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Old 18th March 2006, 05:44 PM   #11
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That's the best example I've seen - really unique and complete. I've been admiring it on your avatar. Thank you for the better images
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Old 19th March 2006, 09:50 AM   #12
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Hi thanks and the Handle is out one piece

The patina from touching the handle make it look otherwise.
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Old 21st March 2006, 01:11 AM   #13
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Well it's the nices pakayun I've ever seen.
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Old 21st March 2006, 04:03 AM   #14
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You might check Oldman's

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Old 21st March 2006, 08:36 AM   #15
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Hi what you mean the Oldman catalogue

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Old 21st March 2006, 12:56 PM   #16
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There is one in Catalogue No. 25, item 15, but it has the more commonly seen hilt with knobs on the end of the fork. I could have overlooked something, but didn't see another.
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Old 22nd March 2006, 09:27 AM   #17
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Here some more pakayuns exept the one at the outside
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Old 27th March 2006, 04:24 AM   #18
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Hi does anyone have pics from muruts with pakayuns
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Old 27th March 2006, 10:21 AM   #19
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The only old picture I have seen of a Murut with a Pakayun.
I hope somebody else have others to share?

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Old 27th March 2006, 03:58 PM   #20
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Excellent photo Triple-V!! I love these old photos with the weapons actually being carried. I think it gives an all new meaning and appreciation of the hobby we all love when you see the weapons in their correct time, place and context!

Thanks for that VVV!
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Old 1st April 2006, 06:26 AM   #21
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This picture was taken in 1910
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Old 16th January 2018, 08:30 PM   #22
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Default Oldman Pakayun

New found Pakayun from the Oldman Cataloque

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Old 16th January 2018, 08:53 PM   #23
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Congrats, Ben!

Could you post a close-up of the hilt, please?

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Old 16th January 2018, 10:08 PM   #24
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Congrats Benny! I am with Kai, I also would like to see a close-up from the handle.

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Old 17th January 2018, 04:32 AM   #25
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Beautiful sword Benny ! I like the others would like to see close-ups of the hilt, but also photos of the blade, scabbard and scabbard carvings. Congratulations.

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Old 17th January 2018, 01:09 PM   #26
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Amazing piece Dajak!...and to remain in such lovely condition. Congrats!
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Old 17th January 2018, 09:42 PM   #27
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Old 17th January 2018, 10:07 PM   #28
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Default Pakayun ex Steen Stromberg

Ex Collection Steen.
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Old 18th January 2018, 01:17 PM   #30
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Thanks a lot, Ben!

The ex-Stromberg piece is an exceptionally complete and well-preserved example - congrats!

BTW, the mandau also seems very promising! Maybe you could post that one as well in a seperate thread, please?

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