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Old 28th November 2017, 07:59 PM   #31
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I believe that it is pretty well established that the figural hilts serve a protective function, whether demon, ancestor, historic or mythical personage, or deity, they are all there to protect the sacred keris.

The keris itself, that is, the wilah, can be viewed in a similar way to the Meru, or shrine, itself symbolic of Mt. Meru and along with all of the other relationships, so it makes sense to have something to protect the wilah against possible entry by evil elements.

Its a similar idea to the protective lions at the entry to temples in other parts of Asia.
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Old 29th November 2017, 12:56 PM   #32
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This little fellow showed up in another forum i attend and i note some particular similarities, especially the patterns displayed in the carving on the back side. It was presented as a South Thai keris, which it well may be, but i suspect the hilt might well be from Cirebon.
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Old 30th November 2017, 08:14 PM   #33
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I am curious what you folks think about the origin of the hilt i last posted. The pattern on the back is very similar to Athanase North Coast hilt, but the eyes, head shape seem to indeed reflect some Thai elements. So is this one also North Coast of could it be native to South Thailand?
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David, based upon what I believe I can see in the pic, if I were to be presented with this hilt on an older Javanese keris, I think I'd probably be inclined to accept it as Javanese.

However, having said that, there are elements in both style and execution that I have not seen previously in hilts that I know to be Javanese.

I have very little knowledge of old Siamese art motifs, or of art motifs and execution in all the other parts of SE Asia, my knowledge of these areas is only general knowledge, not specialist knowledge.

In this sort of situation I prefer not to give an opinion.

What you have to go on is somebody else's opinion, so the way I'd describe it would be:- "--- attributed to ---"
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Old 7th December 2017, 07:06 AM   #35
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I am curious what you folks think about the origin of the hilt i last posted. The pattern on the back is very similar to Athanase North Coast hilt, but the eyes, head shape seem to indeed reflect some Thai elements. So is this one also North Coast of could it be native to South Thailand?


Hi David, i agree that some carving especialy di back or lower back hilt is much similiar to indonesian cirebon hilts. Some design also found on the cirebon selut.
But the front face is indeed thai elements?
I will try get some photos of mine as well
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