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19th February 2012, 09:31 AM
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Identification of barrel's marks on a Greek pistol
Hi friends,
Can anybody recognize the barrel's marks on this Greek pistol? Thank you in advance. |
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19th February 2012, 10:05 AM
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very beautiful pistol,
very elegant in its form and decoration I just love it  thanks for sharing à + Dom |
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21st February 2012, 10:16 AM
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It is very interesting gun. It is obvious that Eastern origin. What size is and what weight is?
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22nd February 2012, 11:50 AM
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Hi Sylektis,
All I can contribute is this photoshoped version of your image of the marks, hoping it will help attract more competent members. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock : 22nd February 2012 at 04:10 PM. |
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26th February 2012, 08:07 AM
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Length= 45cm Weight= 1162gr |
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22nd December 2013, 08:18 AM
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Hi again.
I found in my photo archive the same marks on another pistol. Can anybody help now? Resemble Belgian proof marks but I can't identify them exactly. Thank you. |
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22nd December 2013, 10:03 AM
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Hy Sylektis,
They have a similar exterior oval shape but they are not Belgium (Liege) at all. I guess all those efects in your pistol ar only decorative, to resemble real marks; a practice often seen in Turkish guns, for one  . |
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18th July 2016, 02:21 PM
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Hi Skyletis,
I have one question, do you think the Owl on your pistol is linked to Athena and it's a symbol of Athens the Greek capital?  Kubur |
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2nd September 2016, 07:02 PM
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With the beginning of the Greek Revolution of 1821, the temporary government tried to link the new country with its ancient history. So, in art, Greece has the face of Athena. |
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3rd September 2016, 04:30 PM
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Thank you it's very interesting.
Do you know if the lion is a Greek symbol or a Turkishsymbol? I have seen lions on many palaskas. I have a palaska with lions too. In Europe, you can find many swords with lions as this animal is a symbol of strengh and justice. Best, |
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6th September 2016, 11:38 AM
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Lion was a very old symbol of strength and gentleness for Kings and Heroes.(although they have disappeared from Greece many years ago!) The Ottomans were not using people and animals as symbols and art. It was used only as a title by a number of Seljuk and Ottoman rulers, including Alp Arslan and Ali Pasha. (The latter was called "The lion of Epirus") |
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6th September 2016, 07:12 PM
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Thank you very much, because the examples that you provided demonstrate well that the lions are connected to Greek palaskas. What do you think about these ones? 2 lions and 2 birds, so interesting...
Best, |
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