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Old 30th October 2013, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default Beautiful dagger for ID ?

This dagger has been offered to me. I like it very much because of its beauty but I actually do not know anything about it, neither do the seller
The blade is wootz with gold inlays and the grip is ivory.
Please help me on origin, type and age if you can.
Thank you very much to all of you !!
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Old 30th October 2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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Wow, what a beauty!!

It is a Pesh Kabz from India. Age? no idea. The more knowledgeable members in this field might give you an answer on that.
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Old 31st October 2013, 10:39 AM   #3
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yes, it is Indian. although a mix of Pesh and Kard, with more being a Kard - a "mystery dagger" in modern terms and I think it's more modern as well, the blade is not wootz and likely late last century if not earlier.

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Old 31st October 2013, 10:57 AM   #4
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IMXO, Indo-Persian Khandjar, image 5 may show wootz, but better etching may be revealing. AFAIK, Pesh Kabz as a rule has a T- reinforced blade and Kard is single-edged and is usually straight.
Quite a lot of re-glueing.
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Old 31st October 2013, 12:16 PM   #5
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Ariel is right on terminology. It's not a classical Pesh or Kard. It's a khanjar/dagger. I do believe it's Indian, and of mechanical damascus, not wootz, and a fairly recent "retrofit".
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Old 31st October 2013, 01:03 PM   #6
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Here is a pesh (lt) and a kard (rt), the item being discussed has none of the distinctive traits of either one.
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Old 31st October 2013, 07:56 PM   #7
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Thank you for all your kind answers.
You gave me several words for the search engine, but I haven't yet found anything like it.
I too think it is not very old.... unfortunately. Mostly because of the lack of patina on the hilt and also the blade. The ivory especially looks brand new...
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