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Old 13th February 2012, 07:44 PM   #1
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Old 13th February 2012, 08:03 PM   #2
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Nice!
Was there a question or observation? What do you know about provenance, the style of hilt etc. Do you collect in this field?
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Old 13th February 2012, 08:50 PM   #3
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I would translate it.
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Old 13th February 2012, 08:51 PM   #4
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I would translate it. inside the square is the year??
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Old 13th February 2012, 09:40 PM   #5
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Nice, here's mine!
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Old 13th February 2012, 11:48 PM   #6
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Translation for the date

1123 Hegira either 1711 Gregorian

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they also come in straight.
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Translation for the date

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I find it hard to believe that these daggers are 300 yrs old based on the inscribing. If these are indeed Mahdist period dagger they can't be older than 1885?

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Old 14th February 2012, 10:58 AM   #9
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I find it hard to believe that these daggers are 300 yrs old based on the inscribing. If these are indeed Mahdist period dagger they can't be older than 1885? Lew
I dunno if in English has a meaning, but we said (Frenchies)
- the paper never refuse ink and when it's engraved in marble or iron
I translate, no more ...
interpretation I leave it for more expert than me

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Old 14th February 2012, 08:27 PM   #10
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In portuguese: paper accepts all...
I believe the Mahdists copied what already existed ...in this case: the style of the words Thuluth and the design of daggers. How copied others styles: indian, mamluk, western african ..
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Old 14th February 2012, 08:46 PM   #11
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Its a Funj dagger?

The rulers of Sennar held the title of Mek (sultan). Their regnal numbers vary from source to source.
Amara Dunqas 1503-1533/4 (AH 940)
Nayil 1533/4 (AH 940)-1550/1 (AH 957)
Abd al-Qadir I 1550/1 (AH 957)-1557/8 (AH 965)
Abu Sakikin 1557/8 (AH 965)-1568
Dakin 1568-1585/6 (AH 994)
Dawra 1585/6 (AH 994)-1587/8 (AH 996)
Tayyib 1587/8 (AH 996)-1591
Unsa I 1591-1603/4 (AH 1012)
Abd al-Qadir II 1603/4 (AH 1012)-1606
Adlan I 1606-1611/2 (AH 1020)
Badi I 1611/2 (AH 1020)-1616/7 (AH 1025)
Rabat I 1616/7 (AH 1025)-1644/5
Badi II 1644/5-1681
Unsa II 1681-1692
Badi III 1692-1716
Unsa III 1719-1720
Nul 1720-1724
Badi IV 1724-1762
Nasir 1762-1769
Isma'il 1768-1776
Adlan II 1776-1789
Awkal 1787-1788
Tayyib II 1788-1790
Badi V 1790
Nawwar 1790-1791
Badi VI 1791-1798
Ranfi 1798-1804
Agban 1804-1805
Badi VII 1805-1821
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Old 14th February 2012, 08:47 PM   #12
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really, the dagger its previous the mahdist, its a Funj gun? funj warrior
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