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Old 4th February 2012, 03:37 PM   #1
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Hello members,

just acquired this lowlander tenegre from the Visayans. I think that the handle is from horn, but not sure since I haven't received it until now.
Will post more pictures when I have it in my hands.
What do you think how old this sword can be? From which of the Visayan islands it could be?

All comments are welcome.

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Old 5th February 2012, 10:31 AM   #2
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Hi Detlef,

It's a good looking piece. The blade looks like very nice quality, thick and extremely carefully ground and finished.
When you have it, I'll be interested to hear where the point of balance is and how it feels in hand!

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Old 5th February 2012, 10:38 AM   #3
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Hi Detlef,

It's a good looking piece. The blade looks like very nice quality, thick and extremely carefully ground and finished.
When you have it, I'll be interested to hear where the point of balance is and how it feels in hand!

Best
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Hi Gene,

thank you for comment! Will give you all informations when I have received it.

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Hi Gene,

thank you for comment! Will give you all informations when I have received it.

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Hi Detlef

It seems to my inexpert eye to be more solid and functional than many.

The Hilt and metal guard/collar have a lovely even patina. Do you assume that the knuckle bow is bronze like the collar? A little buff with a soft cloth should give them a soft sheen which will be perfect.
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Old 5th February 2012, 12:43 PM   #5
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Hi Detlef

It seems to my inexpert eye to be more solid and functional than many.

The Hilt and metal guard/collar have a lovely even patina. Do you assume that the knuckle bow is bronze like the collar? A little buff with a soft cloth should give them a soft sheen which will be perfect.
Hi Gene,

the solid appearance was the reason that I buy it. Hope as well that the guard is from brass. I normally don't like to polish brass but i think that this one will look better with the brass polished special because the brass look so dull.
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Old 5th February 2012, 02:02 PM   #6
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NICE ONE indeed. So neat overall and great condition! Strange actually these 'animalheads' look so much like rhinoceros! Anyone knows what they should depict??; Dragon/naga??
Congrats with this nice Tenegre!
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Thank you Wouter,

I only know from here that it is called deity head but I would like to know as well which deity this will be.

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Hi Detlef,

It's a good looking piece. The blade looks like very nice quality, thick and extremely carefully ground and finished.
When you have it, I'll be interested to hear where the point of balance is and how it feels in hand!

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I feel the need to echo this sentiment. The blade is very very well done, I am absolutely green with envy!

Beautiful piece, Detlef.
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I feel the need to echo this sentiment. The blade is very very well done, I am absolutely green with envy!

Beautiful piece, Detlef.
Thank you very much Dave!
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Today I received the tenegre and I am very satisfied with my new toy!

Handle is like supposed from horn, ferrule and guard from iron. The sheath missing two brass (?) bands at the leather throat otherwise it is in very good condition. The blade is very well worked and finished. The feel in the hand is very good and the blade is well balanced.
As for the age I think that it is pre WWII since the leather throat is attached in the old way. Here are some first pictures, more will follow.

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Here some more pictures, sorry for quality, it is a very bad light here in Germany at the moment.
Have carefully cleaned the blade and the brass rings in front, need to be polished in the back.

Any statements for the age?
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It's a beauty Detlef!
Even better than I thought, horn hilt, what luck. Iron guard, a sturdy material for a war-sword then?
I agree with you that WW2 would be a 'latest' date, I'd guess at a date of between the wars.
Lovely piece, well done on the buff-up, looks great.
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It's a beauty Detlef!
Even better than I thought, horn hilt, what luck. Iron guard, a sturdy material for a war-sword then?
I agree with you that WW2 would be a 'latest' date, I'd guess at a date of between the wars.
Lovely piece, well done on the buff-up, looks great.
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Hi Gene,

thank you! Yes, this sword would be ideal for fighting. When I compare it with my other tenegre (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=tenegre) which was estimated between 1920-1945 I think that this one now is older, turn of the century would be my guess. But I am not an expert so it would be nice to read some other opinions.

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My congratulation on your acquiring this beautiful tenegre Detlef !!! The heavy steel guard and horn hilt are most impressive and help set this piece apart from the ones with the thin brass guards and wooden hilts. All in all a very well made warriors sword that I think would date to the first quarter of the 20th century. Again, my congratulation to you on being able to add this fine item to your collection.

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My congratulation on your acquiring this beautiful tenegre Detlef !!! The heavy steel guard and horn hilt are most impressive and help set this piece apart from the ones with the thin brass guards and wooden hilts. All in all a very well made warriors sword that I think would date to the first quarter of the 20th century. Again, my congratulation to you on being able to add this fine item to your collection.

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