Indonesian and African spear?

ericlaude · 17th May 2011, 07:56 PM

Hi,
I want show you two spears, the first one is, I think Indonesian, I bought it with two spearhead who measure each 18", its big bamboo handle measures 72". Second, smaller is without doubts African, and measures 52". I am not sure of their provenance, somebody can tell me more about its?
Thank you in advance for your answers.

ericlaude · 17th May 2011, 07:58 PM

colin henshaw · 17th May 2011, 08:22 PM

I'm not sure about the South East Asian one, but the African spear is from the Somalia region.

Regards.

asomotif · 17th May 2011, 10:37 PM

The a-symetric point is something that normallu would make me think of Java.

But the shaft en de square decorational protrusion make me think of North Sumatra

Gavin Nugent · 17th May 2011, 10:43 PM

The other I believe is Vitenamese.

Gav

Sajen · 18th May 2011, 12:08 AM

Hello Ericlaude,

I don't think that the both spearheads are from Indonesia. Vietnam like Gav write seems to be a good point.

Regards,

Detlef

Nathaniel · 18th May 2011, 12:19 AM

I would agree with Vietnamese, based upon the ferrule style and commongly seen seemingly incomplete scroll style engraving on the spear head. Interesting to see the tangs. All three are nice pieces...thanks for sharing!

panzercracker · 24th August 2011, 07:04 AM

This spear head is called "partisan" (Mâu) or "snake partisan" (Xà Mâu) in Vietnamese. If you noctice the spear head, it has snake shape with the shorter head is snake head and longer head is snake tail.

This weapon not only good for parrying sword, but also for against shield. In Vietnamese, we have word "mâu thuẫn" (mâu: partisan and thuẫn: shield) is mean "contradict"

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panzercracker · 24th August 2011, 07:10 AM

Similiar with this partisan, is weild buy master Trịnh Quang Thắng of Bình Định Sa Long Cương martial art guild.

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ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Indonesian and African spear? Hi, I want show you two spears, the first one is, I think Indonesian, I bought it with two spearhead who measure each 18", its big bamboo handle measures 72". Second, smaller is without doubts African, and measures 52". I am not sure of their provenance, somebody can tell me more about its? Thank you in advance for your answers. Attached Images

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Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Vietnam The other I believe is Vitenamese. Gav

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colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	I'm not sure about the South East Asian one, but the African spear is from the Somalia region. Regards.

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asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,221	The a-symetric point is something that normallu would make me think of Java. But the shaft en de square decorational protrusion make me think of North Sumatra

18th May 2011, 12:08 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,491	Hello Ericlaude, I don't think that the both spearheads are from Indonesia. Vietnam like Gav write seems to be a good point. Regards, Detlef

18th May 2011, 12:19 AM	#7
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	I would agree with Vietnamese, based upon the ferrule style and commongly seen seemingly incomplete scroll style engraving on the spear head. Interesting to see the tangs. All three are nice pieces...thanks for sharing!

24th August 2011, 07:04 AM	#8
panzercracker Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2	This spear head is called "partisan" (Mâu) or "snake partisan" (Xà Mâu) in Vietnamese. If you noctice the spear head, it has snake shape with the shorter head is snake head and longer head is snake tail. This weapon not only good for parrying sword, but also for against shield. In Vietnamese, we have word "mâu thuẫn" (mâu: partisan and thuẫn: shield) is mean "contradict" .

24th August 2011, 07:10 AM	#9
panzercracker Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2	Similiar with this partisan, is weild buy master Trịnh Quang Thắng of Bình Định Sa Long Cương martial art guild.