What are These Two Indonesian Knives, and Where From???

CharlesS · 7th March 2011, 05:07 PM

I picked up these two old Indonesian knives recently. They do not seem to perfectly fit any particular form, using primarily Zonneveld's Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago as a reference.

Can anyone help with classifying exactly what these are and what area they are likely from?? Note that one has a hilt very similar to a Javanese keris.

The larger one is 17.5 inches overall, and the smaller one is 14in. inches overall.

Thanks in advance!

Sajen · 7th March 2011, 05:57 PM

Hello Charles,

this are two very nice Siraui from Sumatra most proable from Minangkabau area. See page 126 and this links:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui

Hope I was from help!

Regards,

Detlef

Maurice · 7th March 2011, 08:07 PM

Nice pieces Charles, and they show nice age!

This is a siraui I bought for trading/swapping a while ago, but my daughter was pretty upset when I wanted to sell it, so I gave it to her as her first collectorspiece.
At the moment this one is standing in our livingroom on a tiny little socket. :-)

Total length is 6,5 inches ( 16,5 cm's), and not half so big as your tiniest one.

Rg,
Maurice

CharlesS · 7th March 2011, 09:38 PM

Thanks guys! I was very aware of the siraui, but was just not 100% sure these two fit the form, primarily because of the scabbard and hilt styles.

Thanks again!

tom hyle · 9th March 2011, 12:11 AM

Are these used edge-up in combat?

Sajen · 10th March 2011, 11:53 PM

Hello Tom,

can't answer your question but I think that there are two types of this knife. The longer ones like Charles examples may be used as dagger and the one like Maurice ones or mine are maybe used as utility knifes but this is only my guess by the shape of the blades.

Regards,

Detlef

7th March 2011, 05:07 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	What are These Two Indonesian Knives, and Where From??? I picked up these two old Indonesian knives recently. They do not seem to perfectly fit any particular form, using primarily Zonneveld's Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago as a reference. Can anyone help with classifying exactly what these are and what area they are likely from?? Note that one has a hilt very similar to a Javanese keris. The larger one is 17.5 inches overall, and the smaller one is 14in. inches overall. Thanks in advance! Attached Images

7th March 2011, 08:07 PM	#3
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,324	Another siraui Nice pieces Charles, and they show nice age! This is a siraui I bought for trading/swapping a while ago, but my daughter was pretty upset when I wanted to sell it, so I gave it to her as her first collectorspiece. At the moment this one is standing in our livingroom on a tiny little socket. :-) Total length is 6,5 inches ( 16,5 cm's), and not half so big as your tiniest one. Rg, Maurice Attached Images

10th March 2011, 11:53 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,483	Hello Tom, can't answer your question but I think that there are two types of this knife. The longer ones like Charles examples may be used as dagger and the one like Maurice ones or mine are maybe used as utility knifes but this is only my guess by the shape of the blades. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

7th March 2011, 05:57 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,483	Hello Charles, this are two very nice Siraui from Sumatra most proable from Minangkabau area. See page 126 and this links: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=siraui Hope I was from help! Regards, Detlef

7th March 2011, 09:38 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Thanks guys! I was very aware of the siraui, but was just not 100% sure these two fit the form, primarily because of the scabbard and hilt styles. Thanks again!

9th March 2011, 12:11 AM	#5
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Are these used edge-up in combat?